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getthefacts Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:39 AM
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Shelby dabbles in citizenship rumor
A dispatch from Cullman, Alabama:

Another local resident asked Shelby if there was any truth to a rumor that appeared during the presidential campaign concerning Obama’s U.S. citizenship, or lack thereof.

“Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate,” Shelby said. “You have to be born in America to be president.”

I emailed Shelby's spokesman, Jonathan Graffeo, to ask if Shelby believes there's substance to this rumor, for which no supporting evidence has ever emerge, and which has been debunked repeatedly and in detail.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0209/Shelby_dabbles_in_citizenship_rumor.html


HUH?!?
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:52 AM
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1. Shelby is one of those who think that anyone north of Cullman
is a Yankee, and anyone south of Montgomery is an illegal,,,,,,
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getthefacts Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:25 AM
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4. HA!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:57 AM
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2. Taking one more step toward the Civil War
Seriously, would anyone miss Alabama?
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:00 AM
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3. I miss Bear Bryant,, but wouldn't miss Alabama..
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:04 PM
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5. Shelby is full of it and woefully ignorant of the citizenship laws.....
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 12:06 PM by suston96
Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law - the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.


http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

What the US Constitution fails to detail is remedied by the Congress, as is often the case. This is one of them.
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