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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:43 PM
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What now for the American right?
What now for the American right?

Right here, right now

After twenty per cent of conservatives voted for Obama, the Republican party was left in tatters.
Oliver Burkeman asks key figures - what next?

Oliver Burkeman The Guardian, Saturday 18 April 2009


In British politics, the solution to such a muddle might be for a fresh-faced leader - a Blair or a Cameron - to take on his own party, forcing reform on the infighting members. But it's far harder for such a leader to emerge in the US if your party doesn't control the White House, harder still if you're a minority in Congress. "In Britain, political change is always imposed from the top down - half a dozen people who have houses next door to each other in London come to an understanding, win a contest and impose their vision on the party," says the former Bush speech-writer David Frum. "In America, change tends to come from the middle up - from the activists." And the problem with activists is that they tend to prefer passionate commitment to pragmatism. "I call them say-it-louder conservatives," says Frum, in a coffee shop around the corner from the American Enterprise Institute, a neoconservative thinktank where he now has an office. "If people don't like what you're saying, say it louder! Then they'll like it!"

It's odd that Frum has emerged as a figurehead of the moderate reformers - those calling for the American right to abandon its extremes and accept that issues from global warming to the financial crisis require a new approach. In Europe, he's probably best known as the person who coined the phrase "axis of evil" (though his version was "axis of hatred"). He co-authored a book with Richard Perle defending the Iraq war, and a book in praise of Bush, The Right Man. But now he says US conservatism has suffered a "psychic defeat" - a disease of which the Palin-worship at CPAC was a symptom. "One of the stages in the decline of a political movement is the moment when it comes to feel beaten. And in that moment it becomes reactionary, because there's a sense that to engage with the modern world in any way is to give up your beliefs."

A big part of the problem, Frum argues, is precisely that American conservatism was so successful. From this perspective, the popular revolution spearheaded by Ronald Reagan identified real problems - crime and chaos in American cities, rampant inflation, industries held hostage by unions - and implemented tough solutions, which worked. "The things we promised to do, we did." Government shrank; taxes were cut; worker protections were reduced: the free market, in short, was given a freer hand. Today's conservative activists were in their 20s then, excited by the sense of change. "But now 30 years have passed, and we're 30 years older, and what happens to the mind as it approaches 50 is it tends to become more rigid, more reluctant to absorb new impressions. We need to understand that the country has new problems, which require new solutions."

Cutting taxes, for example, might have been the right thing to do in 1980 - but if you keep on blindly cutting taxes, as if always cutting taxes were a keystone of conservatism, you'll reach a point where people think taxes are low enough; they don't want to lose the services the taxes pay for. "It's calcification," Frum says. "Our problem is we make principles of our policies. Limited government is a principle. The idea that income tax rates must always be cut, no matter what they are? That's not a principle." Frum's plan, outlined in his book Comeback: Conservatism That Can Win Again, calls for the Republican party to emphasise healthcare reform over tax cuts, to develop an environmental message, tone down the pro-life, anti-gay marriage rhetoric, and focus on the factor that drew so many conservatives away from McCain/Palin and towards Obama: not political ideology, but the sheer question of competence.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/18/us-politics-republican-party

What Frum is arguing about is that the GOP should borrow a page from David Cameron's Tories. This is an unlikely event in view of the rejectionism of American social conservatives and their strident and rigid ideology.

Interesting also is Burkeman's description of Joe the Plumber's reception at CPAC as the epitome of "cheap populism and anti-intellectual rabble-rousing."

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:49 PM
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1. Frum
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:51 PM
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2. What now for the American right? uhmmm....How bout WRONG?
Damn teabaggers.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:52 PM
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3. CNN polls report 10% of liberals voted for McCain. Liberals made up 22% of voters.
Liberal (22%)

Moderate (44%)

Conservative (34%)
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:56 PM
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4. That's total bullshit.
Democrats outnumber Republicans and the gap has been widening. Somebody's playing around with semantics.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:05 PM
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6. CNN polls below suggest it's your post that is total BS. The poll I cite is the source of the OP 20%
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:14 PM
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9. And there's the rub.
It is not uncommon for the term liberal to be taken for Democrat and conservative to be used to denote Republican. But check it out, this poll lists results by party ID, and statistics there are more in line with reality: 39% identify themselves as Democrats while 32% claim to be Republicans.

But just as you say there is another section based on ideology, clearling indicating that in this particular poll liberal does not equal Democrat, etc. But we are then left to wonder why other ideologies such as libertarians and progressives and not represented there. Since 100% of respondents are accounted for, apparently they had to pick one of three categories.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 11:00 AM
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12. Your points are valid. Perhaps it's wise to accept them before calling a statement "total bullshit".
Have a peaceful day. :hi:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:57 PM
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5. I see the right going for more fringe parties rather than the GOP
for example, the anti-abortionists are finally waking up to the fact that the GOP is not going to pass a "pro-life" amendment. And the racists cringe at Steele being a figurehead of the GOP. These people will go elsewhere to vote, I think, and the GOP will remain a minority party for quite a while.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:23 PM
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10. I'll buy that.
A Ross Perot type splintering of the GOP is going on now and Democrats are therefore going to pick up more in the Congressional midterms. Anti-tax Republicans will continue to go for somebody like Ron Paul and neocons will obsess about getting Lord Vader back into the game. Products of generational inbreeding will be drawn like flies to Palin.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 05:51 PM
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7. Futile anger and political masturbation?
Whining and lashing out? Further self-degradation?
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:29 PM
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8. Frum can read.
That elitist must go!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:10 PM
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11. Clueless still - as usual.
"tone down" anti-choice, anti gay - not, heaven forbid, RETHINK and come to the conclusion to ABANDONE it entirely - just like their reaction to CIVIL RIGHTS - still BIGOTS - DANGEROUS HATEFUL BIGOTS - but "toned down" so we only glimpse it when we're not supposed to...
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