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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:07 AM
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Paul Krugman: Reclaiming America’s Soul

Reclaiming America’s Soul


by Paul Krugman
New York Times



“Nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past.” So declared President Obama, after his commendable decision to release the legal memos that his predecessor used to justify torture. Some people in the political and media establishments have echoed his position. We need to look forward, not backward, they say. No prosecutions, please; no investigations; we’re just too busy.

And there are indeed immense challenges out there: an economic crisis, a health care crisis, an environmental crisis. Isn’t revisiting the abuses of the last eight years, no matter how bad they were, a luxury we can’t afford?

No, it isn’t, because America is more than a collection of policies. We are, or at least we used to be, a nation of moral ideals. In the past, our government has sometimes done an imperfect job of upholding those ideals. But never before have our leaders so utterly betrayed everything our nation stands for. “This government does not torture people,” declared former President Bush, but it did, and all the world knows it.

And the only way we can regain our moral compass, not just for the sake of our position in the world, but for the sake of our own national conscience, is to investigate how that happened, and, if necessary, to prosecute those responsible.

What about the argument that investigating the Bush administration’s abuses will impede efforts to deal with the crises of today? Even if that were true — even if truth and justice came at a high price — that would arguably be a price we must pay: laws aren’t supposed to be enforced only when convenient. But is there any real reason to believe that the nation would pay a high price for accountability?

For example, would investigating the crimes of the Bush era really divert time and energy needed elsewhere? Let’s be concrete: whose time and energy are we talking about?

Tim Geithner, the Treasury secretary, wouldn’t be called away from his efforts to rescue the economy. Peter Orszag, the budget director, wouldn’t be called away from his efforts to reform health care. Steven Chu, the energy secretary, wouldn’t be called away from his efforts to limit climate change. Even the president needn’t, and indeed shouldn’t, be involved. All he would have to do is let the Justice Department do its job — which he’s supposed to do in any case — and not get in the way of any Congressional investigations.

I don’t know about you, but I think America is capable of uncovering the truth and enforcing the law even while it goes about its other business.


Mr. Krugman's column Reclaiming America’s Soul continues here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/opinion/24krugman.html
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:23 AM
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1. Oh, goody. Another chance for Krugman to bash Obama...
:eyes:

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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:08 AM
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4. he's not bashing obama!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:12 AM
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5. oh good grief -
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:37 AM
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6. It's only "bashing Obama" if Obama does not follow the law
and allow the DOJ to investigate and prosecute war crimes against all who authorized and committed it. If Obama intervenes to stop prosecutions of Bush Admin and CIA officials who committed war crimes, then he is an accomplice to war criminals. Obama should know better than to let politics get in the way of legal proceedings. We had 8 years of that and we don't need it anymore.
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:53 AM
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7. perhaps bashing too strong a word....
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 10:55 AM by gblady
more like being snarky.
seems to have missed a few news cycles.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:30 AM
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2. He's right. This needs to happen. There is no other way to move forward.
To try to move on without facing the truth and bringing those who broke the law to justice will NEVER work.
It will poison this country from now on. Count on it.
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 08:44 AM
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3. Right, to not deal with this would be like putting makeup on a cancer.
This nation tried that with slavery -- choosing not to deal with it at the very start -- and it festered for several generations until coming back and biting the entire country in a "civil" war. Sweeping problems under the rug in order to "move forward" may sound nice at the moment, but never really work.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:58 AM
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8. So to you, not agreeing with letting torturers go uninvestigated and unpunished
is bashing Obama. Excuse me, but if Obama stands in the way of investigating and prosecuting the war criminals of the Bush cabal, he deserves to be bashed. And Paul Krugman will only be one voice doing the bashing. Americans have the right to express themselves without being themselves bashed. One of the great disasters of the past 8 years was that the media refused to stand tall against the serious infractions of the Bushista, often, as you well know, covering up for the wrongdoers instead of telling the public the truth. Now you call Krugman an Obama basher for standing tall and giving his perspective. Shame on you!!!!!!
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 12:42 PM
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9. Krugman is 100% Spot On
He articulates my own thoughts better than I can, and he also brings up the fraudulent march to war in Iraq -- which I think is a greater crime than torture:

For the fact is that officials in the Bush administration instituted torture as a policy, misled the nation into a war they wanted to fight and, probably, tortured people in the attempt to extract “confessions” that would justify that war. And during the march to war, most of the political and media establishment looked the other way.

It’s hard, then, not to be cynical when some of the people who should have spoken out against what was happening, but didn’t, now declare that we should forget the whole era — for the sake of the country, of course.

Sorry, but what we really should do for the sake of the country is have investigations both of torture and of the march to war. These investigations should, where appropriate, be followed by prosecutions — not out of vindictiveness, but because this is a nation of laws.

We need to do this for the sake of our future. For this isn’t about looking backward, it’s about looking forward — because it’s about reclaiming America’s soul.


Big K&R for PK:applause:
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 01:12 PM
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10. We can't "move on" because these torture operations are not in the past.
They're still ongoing, if the reports about these operations being moved to Bagram are accurate.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 03:18 PM
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11. I'm very happy to have Obama in office and I totally agree with Krugman on this issue.
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:05 PM
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12. kick for krug!
:kick:
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