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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:45 PM
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The Last Gasp of the Angry White Man (Featured Diary @ DailyKos By Cenk)

By Cenk Uygur

What we're seeing in these angry town halls these days is the last gasp of the angry white man. He's not quite sure what he's angry about, but he knows he's angry. It's not the world he used to know. He gets the disquieting feeling that he doesn't rule the roost anymore. And it's driving him crazy.

One of the was, "No national health care!" Okay, mission accomplished. No one has proposed such a thing. So, I guess they can go home now, befuddled at what they were yelling about.

The reality is that what they have been manipulated into arguing against is a public option that would give them more choices, not less in health insurance. It wouldn't nationalize health insurance at all, let alone any part of the rest of the health care industry.

But this isn't about health insurance. It isn't even about health care. You think those people are really this animated about having less health care options and making sure it costs more for them and their family? No, this is visceral for them. And it has nothing to do with their perceived choices on health care. This is about the sinking feeling in their stomach that they are losing power in this country -- losing control. That the reigns of power are slipping out of their hands and they don't know what to do about it, except yell, really loud.

One guy famously shouted, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare." Everyone is understandably . But there is a larger point here. They don't care about the logic of the issue at hand. I'm not convinced they even care what the issue is. These are the same people that were yelling at the Palin rallies. They were screaming just as loud then, and it was different issues, or no issues at all. Just name calling and fear. Pure, unadulterated fear.

At a people were yelling at the top of their lungs, "Hear Our Voice." Ironically, that's all we could hear. No one could hear the congresswoman there. Or any arguments that were being made or any issues debated. All they could hear was the loud, angry voices demanding to be heard.

And who is stoking these fires? Encouraging and egging on these screams, this anger, this fear? Conservative talk hosts all across the country (and, of course, who are relishing using these poor schleps as fodder for their effort to kill health care reform). They're telling them the proper response is anger. Don't wait your turn. Don't listen to the congressman. Shout. Be heard. Be angry. Obama is taking this country away from you.

The woman who now famously stood up in a Delaware town hall and demanded that her congressman recognize the illegitimacy of Barack Obama's birth certificate, said something telling in . She said, "I want my country back!"

Indeed. Where did it go? Of course, the country is still right here. It's the "my" part that's missing. She doesn't want this country back. She wants her country back.


I want everyone to be heard, too. I hated it when the Bush handlers would keep out dissenting voices from their town halls. If conservatives are frustrated with some of the policy initiatives of the Obama administration, I think it's an appropriately democratic reaction to show up at town halls and ask questions. In fact, if they did it in a way that asked their representatives interesting and tough questions, I'd be proud of them.

Some of them are holding up constitutions. They finally got them out of the drawer where they were collecting mothballs as the Bush administration ran roughshod over that sacred text. They didn't seem to demand loyalty to that document as the Bush team eviscerated the Fourth Amendment.

But bygones be bygones, if they want to hold Obama responsible for his signing statements for example, great. You can argue he is impinging against Article I of the Constitution just as Bush did.

Do you think that's the argument the town hall screamers are making? Come on, can anyone really discern an argument? Could they point to one clause that they think Obama has violated? My guess is if challenged they would scream out the Second Amendment. Except Obama has not only , he has gone out of his way to reign in his Attorney General to . It isn't about the Second Amendment. It isn't about the Constitution. It's about the anger.

It's a self-justifying anger. The angrier they get the more they feel the imperative to get angry. What is it? What's really eating away at them? I don't think it's a conscious racial thing for them. It's more a feeling of their way of life slipping away from them.

Think about it. If you worked at the local shop and in the old days you could get your son hired there, things were pretty good. Now, they tell you that they have to give the job to someone else's son. Someone that doesn't look like you, someone that you've never met or ever talked to. There's been a lot of generations of that now.

You think those guys are going to inquire into the history of racial prejudice in this country and why it might make sense to increase diversity in a workplace when some groups have been excluded entirely? No, all they know is that their son couldn't get the same job that their dads got for them. They want their country back.

Of course, this has been building up for quite awhile. But now they have lost their political power. Now the epitome of what they were fighting against is their new leader. His first hire for the Supreme Court is a Hispanic woman, who they hear is racist against white men and was only picked because of her race and gender.

And when the president is talking about a confrontation between a white man (a cop trying to do his job) and a black man (another one that got to be a professor, though God knows if he earned it), he immediately chooses the side of the black man -- without even knowing the facts. Man, they're angry. This is the guy they were warned about.

Whether their perception is true is not relevant. It's the intensity of the perception that is relevant. And on top of all this, they feel the whole system is rigged against the average guy (and they're right about this one).

The bankers get all the money. The government spends a ton of cash, but they feel like it never comes to them. It feels like the guys at the top are the ones who always make out like bandits (the fact that their anger against this is being used by those same guys for their own interests is of tremendous irony).

But then add on top of that, their team lost. They don't feel like the president is "one of them."
Maybe that's not even malicious, or at least consciously malicious. But that's how they feel. The world is changing around them and every time they turn on the radio or television (which, of course, is glued to Fox News), they are being told they're right to be angry. And that their anger should be directed primarily at one man: Barack Obama.

That's where the trouble comes in. It's starting to feel like a third world country around here. In developing countries there are organized mobs. There are disruptions of political gatherings. There are angry crowds and talk of gathering weapons. Talk of revolutions...

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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:55 PM
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1. k and r
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 01:58 PM
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2. It is very sub-conciously
oriented. VERy well stated Cenk.

I have to ask ..where would our country be if limpbaughs, beck, hannity, et cetera, et cetera hadn't been fomented?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:00 PM
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3. Ihavenobias--do you work for Cenk?
I wouldn't be offended if you do; I enjoy him and his show pretty regularly.

But I can't help but notice that nearly every single post of yours here is a video or editorial by Cenk Uygur; I'm just curious if you're on the payroll or something...
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:04 PM
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4. Ha, ha...
You aren't the first to ask. I am NOT paid to post TYT videos and articles at DU (wouldn't that be nice?). But I do love and help out the show.

PS---Just about every video and article I post is TYT related, but GD can be a different story: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/ihavenobias/26
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:13 PM
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5. Thank you for posting this. Important read and you won't see it in the MSM.
I'm hoping all the outpouring of unfocused anger will burn itself out, sooner or later. It's really hard to keep senseless rage going.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 03:08 PM
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8. To be fair we'll see some of it on MSNBC Primetime.
But yes, other than that, we clearly won't see it in the MSM. I just saw the local news in Chicago briefly cover the townhall meetings. They generically said (paraphrase) there is 'anger on both sides'. In other words, the majority of Americans who get their news from television are going to view the situation with a laughably bad false equivalency.

The news provided no context and no insight. I know, it's local news, but it's Chicago, not (fill in the blank small town)).
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:25 PM
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6. well said, Cenk--except
I think that you are being too generous.

Yes, they are being malicious because life as their grandpappy told them it ought to be ain't no more and the train isn't going backwards to take them back to that time. Their thinking is there ain't no way they're going to recognize a legally and fairly elected a black man being their president. Period.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 04:16 PM
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10. Did you read the comments at Huffington Post?
It's interesting to see how right wingers react (not that most of the comments are from the right, but still, you'll see plenty):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/the-last-gasp-of-the-angr_b_255273.html

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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 02:10 PM
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21. I haven't been over there yet...
I can well imagine the counterfeit "high dudgeon" they're all in.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 02:52 PM
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7. K&R
:thumbsup: :hi:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 03:48 PM
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9. well written
I do believe alot of them are just that... angry and afraid of losing what control they mistakenly thought they had.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 05:04 PM
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11. well, to paraphrase a quote from American Dad,
they miss the good ole days, when "white men had ALL of the power, rather than just MOST of it." The angry white republican in a nutshell.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 07:24 PM
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13. I think that's true for a lot of them.
The rest are just being duped by fear mongering over death squads and "socialized medicine".
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 12:21 PM
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23. Baloney
They still do, well white men and women...

This whole angry white men stereotype is blatantly awful as it is unfounded and untrue.

As most malicious stereotypes are.
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 06:12 PM
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12. K &R!!!
:thumbsup:
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 07:46 PM
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14. It used to be welfare that was the cause of all their ills.


Once that was gutted you think it would have shut them up. NOPE.

Then it was bankruptcy.. mythical people who racked up huge debts and then filed.

So they gutted that.. did it shut them up? NOPE

So now we have no safety net and no effective way to start over if you ever find yourself in over your head financially... and that includes the very same angry white idiots.

And like "joe the fake plumber" most of them were the worst abusers of the systems.

Now they just make stuff up to be angry about.


I am an angry white male. I am angry at the rich white males that have been waging a class war on us using dumb white males.



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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 08:26 PM
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15. K&R
:kick:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 08:47 PM
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16. "their team lost" - true, but why am I starting to feel like we didn't win? n/t
:kick: & R
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 12:28 PM
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18. I with you. I can't tell that we won anything.
Not only haven't I seen the change I wanted (maybe that takes time) but I don't even hear anyone -- apart from Kucinich and Feingold -- recommending the kinds of change that would make things better.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 09:41 PM
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17. Where were they when *Bush signed the 1999 Futile Care Law?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Directives_Act#fn_Sect_166

Otherwise known as The Advance Directives Act, it gives literal 'death panels' the right to determine someone's life futile, against THEIR OWN WISHES, or those of a guardian. Although they do name them 'ethics panels,' of all things. That means you can even be conscience.

These are the same nutters going on about euthanasia, and other such nonsense. They are either not very bright, or simply don't care. *Bush even came back to sign the Terri Schiovo bill, after he had signed the Futile Care Act.

They obviously didn't care about the futility of her life. If she had been in Texas, under the law *Bush signed, her husband would have had no choice!

You can go to prison for starving an animal to death, but it is LEGAL to deny food and care to humans deemed 'futile' cases?

:wtf:

Unless of course you can afford to take the costs on yourself, and find a facility to take you, since insurance uses the determination of the 'ethics panel' to deny care as well. There is also an agreement among area hospitals to not take 'futile' cases from other facilities in their vicinity.

It was all political theater on their part then. It is no different now.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 01:02 PM
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19. Wrong!! It's NOT their last gasp. They will be gasping for years to come. Sorry to say.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 01:38 PM
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20. This was good
from a logical sense, but these people aren't governed by logic. Childish adults who have abandon rational thought of any kind. They've been told their whole lives that government is bad. That's what the pundits tell them and their own party reinforces it. Even with the depth of economic despair our country is facing they still haven't bothered to find out what caused it. I would bet that the majority don't even know what a credit default swap is. Now that we have a government wanting to help those who have been targets of the illicit banking system they cry foul. Excuse me? They know what they're doing even if it doesn't make sense to the rest of us. That makes them dangerous to our democracy. They could choose to see but like a spoiled child they refuse because to admit it would be to admit they were wrong their whole life.

Tom you said it well in your response:

We can agree that irrational fear and anger are not productive. But we can also agree that there wasn't a Peace Industrial Complex pouring money and talking points into getting liberals to vote/protest against their own interests in order to profit a very small number of corporations.

There also weren't popular national radio and tv figures egging on the left and indirectly (and in some cases pretty damn directly) encouraging violence. Unlike now with the likes of Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and others on Fox News. While I agree we shouldn't let leftist extremism pass (if we can agree on the definition of it), but we also shouldn't present this situation with a very false equivalency.


Now if we know this so can they. Democrats need to stop the infowars and go back to the message "Yes We Can" and rally the base to
counter the misinfo that's being blasted 24/7.
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aidawedo Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-12-09 05:35 PM
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22. Smell that, it's fowl isn't it?
How nice that Mr. Uygur has so much sensitivity and empathy for the White angry mobs and thugs at these health care rallies. I agree, these White people are angry for fear of what the age of Obama may bring. No need White people. I assure you President Obama is not about real change. That is just a slogan by a savvy politician.

I know it is off topic, but my wish is that Mr. Uygur showed a small measure of sensitivity, empathy and understanding for Black Haitians. His gratuitous slap at Haitians in his concluding statements brought all of his lucid reasoning crashing down for me. I must admit I was very angry.

He tossed out a little grenade during his piece that indicated very little thought for the feelings, thoughts and motivations of struggling, embattled Haitians. A common and racially insensitive basic instinct. So Mr. Uygur thinks America represents the best democracy in the world? As one with expertise in democracy he may be incognizant of a small matter. Washington's violent anti-democratic interventions in Haiti.

And so, in light of the chaos and madness Americans have inflicted on Haitians over the centuries of Haiti's existence as a nation, from Jefferson orchestrating a trade embargo on the newly independent formerly enslaved Blacks (for fear of upsetting his French allies and of the Haitian Revolution stirring up the American enslaved peoples to rebellion), to the brutal US occupation of Haiti for 20 years, to the bloody Washington backed and financed coups of 1991 and 2004. When recently did this mythical America he speaks of defend freedom and liberty for Haitians, Latin Americans, Palestinians, Iraqis, Afghanis, Africans, or Uyhurs for that matter... just name one instance please? Oh, so they rescued their brethren the Europeans? That is immaterial, because fear of the *other* is endemic to American foreign policy. Europeans are not the *other*. There is no one in Holland who should fear that America will invade for the cheese. And you can be sure that a *European bailout* which occurred recently (as Washington generously bailed out its banks leading to a spreading of the wealth to the multi-nationals) did not have any *structural adjustment measures* attached. Why even Russia is now in the fold and participated in the G8 summit of *the world's wealthiest nations*. Hey, lets be clear, *Cold War* posturing aside, Russia always had more in common with America then they had differences.

Mr Uygur writes: "We're America. We're supposed to be better than this."

Wrong. No one in the world expects America to be better then this. Not even America's Western Block.

"We're supposed to have the best democracy in the world. As it stands, we're one burning tire away from Haiti. We have to dial this thing back down."

America listen: HAITIANS WANT THEIR COUNTRY BACK! THEY WANT JUSTICE FOR THE THOUSANDS WHO HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF YOUR POLITICAL AND VIOLENT INTERVENTION IN HAITI.

According to Uygur: "It's beginning to smell a lot like banana republic around here."

Welcome to the NEW NEW WORLD. There's a fowl smell about it, isn't there? It's not bananas.
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