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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 04:35 PM
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Polanski's Victim and Me
Yeah, another fucking Polanski thread. For those of you who still don't fucking get it about rape and child sex abuse.

...From where I sit—and I have sat exactly in this same spot for sixty years—the rape of a child is absolutely the equivalent of first-degree murder. Roman Polanski is a murderer, the murderer of a child. Surely, even in this ghastly age, we have to draw the line somewhere. Artists, instead of weeping into their expensive handkerchiefs and flailing their oh-so-delicate arms, should realize that the very notion of art is antithetical to Polanski’s actions, and to use his creativity as an excuse for them is disgusting. For people like Woody Allen, David Lynch, and Martin Scorsese to even hint that Polanski is some kind of harried martyr is despicable. Just ask any one of the thousands upon thousands of children who have been raped. Just ask me...


http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-09-29/polanskis-victim-and-me/
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 04:39 PM
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1. I'm sure whoever unrec'd this actually read the article. Sure you did, Evelyn Wood. eom
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 04:43 PM
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2. powerful article, especially this part
Let us concentrate instead on the undeniable truth that a 44-year-old man fed a child drugs and liquor and then stuck his penis inside her, admitted his guilt, and has led a perfectly elegant life in the arms of Mother France for decades, has traveled widely and openly, been welcomed by the culturati, continued to make movies (most of them not very good) and now is embraced as a cultural martyr.

There is a sense of outrage which cannot be quelled, that never, ever, ever goes away. Polanski will go scot free, of course. He is rich, he is famous, he is, ridiculously, an Artist. And he and his supporters make both themselves and the notion of the saving grace of art despicable.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 04:44 PM
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3. Bravo!
This writer does an excellent job of boiling down all the hype into bare facts.

I worked for a child abuse prevention program years ago. I find the sexual abuse of children by adults despicable.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:20 PM
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9. It is a form of murder. It truly is. eom
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 04:45 PM
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4. K and R. nt
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 04:54 PM
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5. There are people who defend this guy?
I haven't followed the story closely or read any of the threads here yet, but I can't believe anybody but a child rapist would defend a child rapist. That's just too sick to wrap my head around. Who cares if he's an artist? So was Hitler.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:02 PM
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7. Plenty right here on DU. n/t
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 04:56 PM
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6. And people that cling to the Victims Forgiveness are deluded.
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 04:57 PM by orpupilofnature57
It's the ultimate act of misanthropy.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:38 PM
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10. She may have had to forgive him in order to
get on with her own life, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he ran like a weasel to avoid sentencing. Anybody else would have to pay for that. So should he.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:03 PM
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8. et tu, David Lynch?
I've always had so much respect for him. I thought that Twin Peaks/Fire Walk With Me were pretty strong anti-child-rape pieces. Maybe I misread that.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 07:13 PM
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13. Thats how I took it to ,Wild at Heart also covers child rape ,David Lynch
is a genius and good man.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 05:57 PM
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11. Wow, I was looking at the comments
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 05:58 PM by wildflower
This commenter is speaking about the 70s:

This was years before the "No means no" campaigns. Back then no meant maybe, maybe meant yes, and a lady never said yes outright. Indeed it was a different time and place.

This makes me so sad and tired.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 06:33 PM
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12. And then there's this one:
I am sorry for this person's sad story but the rape of a 4 year old BOY by his own father is many times more horrifying than the statutory rape we are talking about. It just is. I would think that was obvious. A sense of perspective is needed.

Very sad.

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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 07:16 PM
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14. Well I couldnt agree more ,and this was my punishment for posting " Slowly"
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 07:17 PM by orpupilofnature57
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 07:20 PM
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15. Wow.
We have to wonder what kind of horrible person would compare one rape to another as a way of saying that one rape is not really rape, or not really a crime, or whatever the hell that person is trying to say. x(

That's really sick.

When comparing two tragedies, always remember that they are both tragedies. One can never diminish the severity or importance of the other.

Anyone who plays the sick game that person is playing can Always find some "worse" situation to site in order to dismiss any rape. What an astounding lack of empathy, compassion and perspective that shows. :(
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