From a Republican.."This is Waterloo all right:..ours" conservative journalist ..David Frum

[Stuart G]

This is the entire post...from Frum's blog.

http://www.frumforum.com/waterloo


"We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they led us to abject and irreversible defeat.

There were leaders who knew better, who would have liked to deal. But they were trapped. Conservative talkers on Fox and talk radio had whipped the Republican voting base into such a frenzy that deal-making was rendered impossible. How do you negotiate with somebody who wants to murder your grandmother? Or – more exactly – with somebody whom your voters have been persuaded to believe wants to murder their grandmother?

I’ve been on a soapbox for months now about the harm that our overheated talk is doing to us. Yes it mobilizes supporters – but by mobilizing them with hysterical accusations and pseudo-information, overheated talk has made it impossible for representatives to represent and elected leaders to lead. The real leaders are on TV and radio, and they have very different imperatives from people in government. Talk radio thrives on confrontation and recrimination. When Rush Limbaugh said that he wanted President Obama to fail, he was intelligently explaining his own interests. What he omitted to say – but what is equally true – is that he also wants Republicans to fail. If Republicans succeed – if they govern successfully in office and negotiate attractive compromises out of office – Rush’s listeners get less angry. And if they are less angry, they listen to the radio less, and hear fewer ads for Sleepnumber beds.

So today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours."

[ShamelessHussy]

1. wow - he must be out of work, or somet'n, to be so straight up

and a neoCON, no less... I admit to worry, that the crazies will get back in power, but I'm also the eternal optimist, and hope these fools won't see power again for generationS, if ever.

[ShamelessHussy]

11. 3 days later - "Frum Exits Conservative Think Tank" (Thu Mar-25-10)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4320185

this is some scary shite... even the fucking crazies are getting the boot :yikes:

they must be goin for broke... i wonder what they see coming down the pike to make them think america will do an abrupt about face and embrace a crazy strong man/woman to dismiss such sage advice (in normal times)

:scared:

[Lautremont]

2. Frum's mother, believe it or not, was a beloved, liberal journalist here in Canada.

She died some years ago and was much mourned. Maybe he just started listening to her.

[snagglepuss]

6. I doubt it. IMO opinion Frum is angling to superficially divest himself

of his close ties to US newcons to finesse his way into the Canadian political punditry. He is spinning himslf as reasonable to appeal to the Canadian sensibility but that is only so as he can soft pedal American neocon philosophy up here. That axis of evil creep makes me want to puke.

[Historic NY]

3. They must all feel like.................

[autorank]

4. Well David, how about the Republicans moving to the left of the Demcorats?

Now that's something his high priced political consulting self has never considered;)

[depakid]

5. "today’s defeat for free-market economics..." ???

Even the "saner" Republicans are nutters

[Jade Fox]

7. You got that right......

Corporate monopoly capitalism is a million miles from "free market economics".

The Free Market is a fantasy of right-wingers.

[The Hope Mobile]

8. Its just knowingly Orwellian. nt

[Stuart G]

9. If you haven't read this, please do so..It...

has created quite a storm around political sites, all over the country.

[TankLV]

10. awww - pow baby...

excuse me if I don't shed a tear for this asshole WHO BROUGHT US HERE WITH HIS ENCOURAGEMENT OF LIES AND DISTORTIONS...

[thelordofhell]

12. The axis of weasel

This turd is circling in the toilet bowl and wants people to stop flushing. Ciao floater, back to the sewer where you belong.

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