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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 03:59 AM
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John Dean on Bush's Hiring A Personal Outside Counsel For Plame Investig
Edited on Fri Jun-04-04 07:41 AM by Skinner
The Serious Implications Of President Bush's Hiring A Personal Outside Counsel For The Valerie Plame Investigation
By JOHN W. DEAN
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Friday, Jun. 04, 2004

Recently, the White House acknowledged that President Bush is talking with, and considering hiring, a non-government attorney, James E. Sharp. Sharp is being consulted, and may be retained, regarding the current grand jury investigation of the leak revealing the identity of Valerie Plame as a CIA covert operative.

~snip~

According to the Los Angeles Times, Bush explained his action by saying, "This is a criminal matter. It's a serious matter," but he gave no further specifics. White House officials, too, would not say exactly what prompted Bush to seek the outside advice, or whether he had been asked to appear before the grand jury.

Nonetheless, Bush's action, in itself, says a great deal. In this column, I will analyze what its implications may be.

~snip~

The Valerie Plame Grand Jury Investigation

The Plame investigation took a quantum leap in December 2003, when Attorney General John Ashcroft recused himself. Ashcroft's deputy appointed a special counsel, who has powers and authority tantamount to those of the attorney general himself. That means, in practice, that Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the United States Attorney from Chicago, does not report to the Justice Department regarding his investigation. (In this sense, Fitzgerald's position is similar to that of an Independent Counsel under the now-defunct independent counsel statute.)

~snip~

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http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20040604.html



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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 04:13 AM
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1. Yes..............
and Bush PROMISED the American people that there would be an unencumbered and honest investigation to get to the bottom of this immediately. They want to stonewall this until after the election. Let's hope it'll be a moot point, with the Chimp etal. packing their bags and getting the hell out of Washington.
I hope the new administration keeps up the heat afterwards and sends this horde of liars, cheaters and miscreants to prison over this.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 04:49 AM
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2. According to his own rules,

I'm not sure * is entitled to counsel.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 06:49 AM
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8. Everyone
is entitled to an attorney in cases having to do with violations of the law. We do not want to come to resemble our enemies .... who are saying that some people do not have the right to an attorney. While I understand the humor in what you are saying, we want to stick to the "high road" .... even here on the underground.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 07:56 PM
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15. Well, Padilla apparently does not have that right, so why should
his nemesis, GWstump?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:08 PM
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18. that's not what Senior Citizen is saying
read the SUBJECT LINE.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 05:22 AM
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3. I am soo glad John Dean is around...
To help us deal with an administration that is Worse than Watergate..
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No Mandate Here. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 05:24 AM
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4. This brings to mind the old adage, that you only ...
see a doctor when you are sick, you only talk with an accountant when you have financial problems, and...

you only hire an attorney when you ARE IN LEGAL TROUBLE!

(sorry if I shouted) (not really)
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 05:49 AM
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5. Looks like he found his own trifecta....EOM
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 11:43 AM
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11. L O L
Your comment is priceless...
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 06:12 AM
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6. Mountains... Molehills...
Don't everybody get your hopes up. Anyone who gets questioned in this type of grand jury investigation gets a lawyer. Even the President. Any President.

The question here is simply whether or not he gets a White House lawyer, or has to hire his own.

Personally, I kindahope he gets a lousy one. Like the drunks who slept through capital trials in Texas all those years.

Oh, wait... those were court appointed lawyers, paid 25 bucks an hour by the state.

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 09:33 AM
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9. He hired an attorney named Jim Sharp.
Edited on Fri Jun-04-04 09:39 AM by Dover
He is 'outside' counsel, as the article says.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 06:49 AM
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7. What lawyer has Cheney hired?
"It has only become more portentous because now Dick Cheney has also hired a lawyer for himself, suggesting both men may have known more than they let on."

Great article - thanks for posting.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:01 AM
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10. I think he keeps one on retainer....Terrence O'Donnell
Asked about the leak investigation, Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites)'s office said that if the vice president were to seek counsel on any issue, he would do so with Terrence O'Donnell, a senior partner in the Washington law firm of Williams & Connelly. Cheney has consulted with O'Donnell for years.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=7&u=/ap/20040603/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_cia_leak
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 06:39 PM
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14. Thanks for that
Wow, you can count on DUer's when it comes to getting information.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 12:46 PM
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12. Here's the basic question (as I see it) that W. asked:
Can one's silence be considered obstruction? Can you be considered to obstruct an investigation by not volunteering the name of who you know to be the guilty party, especially after you (as President) ordered the entire administration to be forthcoming?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 08:28 PM
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16. The final paragraph took me by surprise
And no, I don't live in a cave. I guess I just didn't absorb the original news.

Suffice it to say that whatever the meaning of Bush's decision to talk with private counsel about the Valerie Plame leak, the matter has taken a more ominous turn with Bush's action. It has only become more portentous because now Dick Cheney has also hired a lawyer for himself, suggesting both men may have known more than they let on. Clearly, the investigation is heading toward a culmination of some sort. And it should be interesting.

THAT in itself is mindboggling. Wonder when this comes to a head, soon, just before the election, or maybe the *ies delay this thing until the end of time.

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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 08:34 PM
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17. In the case of the President he has
a moral obligation and he gave an oath to defend and protect the Constitution. Since the Constitution is our basis of law in this country and the outing of an undercover CIA agent is a criminal act and if Bush new of the crime and/or of a cover up I would think that he would be knee deep in dodo. It would be a criminal act not to act upon information, and the President is no exception IMHO (but I am not a lawyer).
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cestmoi Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 01:55 PM
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13. Thanx for this post. I didn't know Dean wrote a column.
This is a very informative article. In these matters someone like Dean offers valuable insight.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 04:18 PM
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19. Analysis of who leaked: Maybe both Cheney and Bush on obstruction charges!
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