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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 02:26 PM
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GOP Playing Chicken: This Time Run Them The F*&k Over
The GOP is playing chicken with the Democrats again. And it seems that the Obama administration is getting ready to blink. Again. A temporary extension of the Bush tax cuts is not a compromise. It's exactly what the Republicans want.

This is absolutely insane. The Republicans came right out and said "We're blocking votes on everything until we get tax cuts for the rich." You can read the letter from Senate Majority Mitch McConnell for yourself if you don't believe me. This comes from the same man who has openly said that the top priority for the GOP over the next two years is to make Barack Obama a one-term president. Not job creation. Not national security. Making Barack Obama look bad.

And he's about to let them do it. Again.

greywolfe359's diary :: ::
This time Obama and probably some Senate Democrats are going to back down because they're chickens who are afraid of being blamed if middle class tax rates go up on the first of the year. They're afraid they won't get to bring any other issues to the floor of the Senate if the Republicans don't get their way. As to the first point, why is it that Republicans are never afraid of being blamed for failing to get the middle class tax cuts renewed? Is it because they know we're chickens who will never let it happen?

As to the second, what the hell do you think they're going to do after they get their juicy tax cuts for the rich? Do you think just because they've said they'll filibuster everything BEFORE then that they'll suddenly stop filibustering everything AFTER they get them? Which Republicans have you been watching for the past two years? Those issues are already dead in the Senate. At least let the Republicans get the credit for killing them!

Republicans are counting on us to be the responsible ones. The rational ones. The ones who have at least some care for being able to actually govern a nation. They have learned they can be as stubborn, intransigent and irrational as they want to be because Democrats just won't have the heart to let the American people suffer the consequences of Republican obstructionism. They're counting on our conscience being our weakness. They know we don't want tax rates to go up on the middle class. They know we think a tax hike on the middle class during a tough economy (it's not a "recession" anymore, by the way, the economy is growing again, but only the rich are seeing the benefits) is a terrible thing. And they're playing a game of chicken betting that we will give them anything just so that doesn't happen.

Well, excuse my language, but FUCK THAT. Sometimes you need to show you're willing to be irrational if you ever want the other side to act rationally again. You can't just fold every time the player across from you ups the ante. If you do, they know all they have to do is raise every single hand until they have the whole pot. That's been their strategy for two years and they're going to keep on doing it until Democrats grow some fucking balls and slap our chips down on the table and say "CALL!"

What does that mean right now? Five steps:

Vote on an extension of ONLY the middle class tax cuts in the House. Pass that extension.
Let that bill go to the Senate. Republicans will threaten to filibuster.
Make them fucking filibuster! Don't bring anything else to the Senate floor. We can do this even after the new Congress takes over because we still have a majority in the Senate. Let the Republicans refuse, month after month if they want to, to vote on middle class tax cuts.
Make them pay! Hit them over the head with this every single day for the next two years if need be. Repeat, again and again with Republican-like discipline for sticking to talking points: "The Republicans raised taxes on the middle class. The Republicans continue to block middle class tax cuts. The Republicans hate the middle class. The Republicans are holding middle class America hostage to the interests of their fat cat banker and investor constituents."
Crush them in the 2012 elections. Do you think the American people would really rally behind a party that blocked middle class tax cuts for two years while getting NOTHING ELSE done? You know what, if the American people DID reward Republicans for that, then they get what they deserve.
We absolutely cannot fall into this same old Republican trap again. They're going to keep running the same play until we stop it. This is the time to quit being chickens and do just that. We need to show that we can be the party of "no" or even "HELL NO!" too. Shove their own damn strategy right back in their faces and then shove it down their throats! What the hell have we got to lose?

Seriously, what are the drawbacks for the Democratic Party here? Afraid if we play tough then we won't get to pass the Dream Act and DADT later on? Bullshit. Those aren't going to pass anyway if we show the Republicans are tails and run again. They will say "thank you very much for passing the Bush tax program, now we can move on to blocking all that other stuff you wanted." They will filibuster votes on all that other stuff either way. We gain NOTHING by caving into their demands here. We get to look weak, we get to aid and abet the class war being waged against the middle class and the poor, and we get to balloon the deficit. For what?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/12/1/924600/-GOP-Playing-Chicken:-This-Time-Run-Them-The-F*k-Over
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 02:27 PM
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1. That is what should be done...Will it be done? I have little faith in that outcome.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 02:35 PM
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2. Up until now I have defended Obama on EVERYTHING...
but I cannot defend Obama caving into the repubs over the tax cuts for the super wealthy....I am pissed at Obama and it hurts me to say that because I think he has done alot of good and I am a loyal card carrying member of the Democratic party....
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 02:36 PM
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3. There are many of us who share your disappointment and disillusionment
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 02:41 PM
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5. get ready for
*You never loved him anyway
*You're a PUMA
*He's not a king with a magic wand
*He can't make Congress do his bidding
*President McCain
*President Palin
*LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!

It'll be coming soon.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 03:12 PM
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6. Before I egt that I want to make it clear...
I understand he is not king and that is why, for example, the health care reform was not perfect. But in this instance, with tax cuts for the rich, Obama can stand his ground but his position is the American people's position. He has the biggest microphone in the world and he should be out there in the country getting people better understand how the repubs are such frauds when it comes to this issue....that would force the Repubs to come to Obama's side and give up their tax cut fight. Obama can be doing so much more than simply sitting in the WH and compromising with the fucking repubs!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 02:37 PM
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4. The Democrats are by now a wholly-owned subsidiary of the republican party
There IS no one to run the pukes over.

There are only pukes.
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N_E_1 for Tennis Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 03:42 PM
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7. Had a thought ...
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 03:43 PM by N_E_1 for Tennis
maybe a bad one, but I'm kinda known for that.

I am just so pissed at how this administration has handled things.
Have been for awhile. Wrote an OP about it in May of this year.
Got a lot of hits, got blasted. OK, no problem. This is just to set my history.

There is a lot of talk on DU about Obama being one term.
There are calls for a Dem Presidential Primary next election.

Ain't this playing into the Repub's hand? Giving them what they want, helping them along?

I, for one, don't want to see a Repub in the WH in 2013, and I know most of you guys don't want that either.

Unless it's Sarah. That pick would lead to the complete destruction of the Republican Party.
Dumb Then Dumber. (George then Sarah). :sarcasm: If that need to be there, so be it.

I really can't say I'm ready for 6 more years of disappointment.

But here's a play ..... Don't except nothing, just a Dem Prez, just frustrating the Repubs.

I have been married for 38 years, have 3 kids, disappointment is nothing new.
No sarcasm smilie there.

I have a rock, yeah the earthly kind, been with me for 48 of my 58 years on this earth.
I found it on my tenth birthday during a scavenger hunt.

It sat at in a corner by my farmhouse, where I was raised, under an eave of the barn.
How long it was there before I discovered it is unknown.
Rain dripped on it every time it rained. It has a hole in it where the drips fell. A hole, right through it.

The rock measures maybe 5X6, 1.5 to 2 inches thick. Took a real long time for that water to go through.
One drip at a time. Molecule by molecule the minerals in that rock moved.

That rock is my inspiration today. I took it from it's long resting place when we sold the farm.
Reminds me - time does matter. Persistence pays off.





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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 04:01 PM
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8. "I, for one, don't want to see a Repub in the WH in 2013"
Long past time to realize there already IS a puke in the White House.
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N_E_1 for Tennis Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 05:48 PM
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9. I really have no response
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 05:48 PM by N_E_1 for Tennis
Can't say I disagree. Just saying what are the options?

We are angry. We are dismissed. All that stuff.

But what are the options? Teach me!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:16 PM
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10. I really don't know what we can do at this point.
Armed revolt might be the only way to get back power and the other side has most of the arms.

We so desperately needed to fight back ten, twenty, even thirty years ago...

I think America has killed itself.

I can only send out my wave of personal hatred to each and every person who put us in this position by insisting that things weren't really that bad.
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N_E_1 for Tennis Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:29 PM
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11. Believe it or not
I really thought that armed revolt would happen back in 1976.

Stared at a lot of goats back then ... none fell.

Resistance is always the smarter, not the most heavily armed.

We can hope to make that wave a tsunami!
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 07:04 PM
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12. Hell, why shouldn't they...
the inverterbrate party backs down every time.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 09:36 PM
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13. let the tax cuts expire
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vduhr Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:14 PM
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14. Did you forget that the House will be run by the Republicans
in just a few short weeks? Now who to do we have to blame for that....hmmmmmmm? You can try to blame that on Obama, but people that didn't vote because they were mad at Obama, screwed the rest of us. As I said in another thread, we weren't voting for Obama in November - it was for control of the House and Senate. The one strong person we had will be gone (Pelosi) and the likes of Boehner and Cantor will be in control. So, good luck with that fight.
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