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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 08:41 AM
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State Department Warns Ivy League University Students: Don't link to, talk about Wikileaks
There's a message going out, from someone at the State Department to students at some Ivy League colleges, possibly many, that they should not link to or even discuss wikileaks or related material on facebook, Twitter or related social media sites.


The NY Times confirms this, reporting, " Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs, which grooms future diplomats, has confirmed to The Lede that it did send an e-mail to students this week warning them to avoid posting comments online about the leaked diplomatic cables, if they ever hope to work for the State Department."


It's confirmed that a message was sent to students at Columbia and Georgetown Universities and there is speculation that it has also been sent to Harvard, Yale, Princeton and other Ivy League universities.


The e-mail , from the Columia Office of Career Services, was posted on the website of Columbia student, Issandr El Amrani. It read :
From: "Office of Career Services"

Date: November 30, 2010 15:26:53 EST:

Hi students,

We received a call today from a SIPA alumnus who is working at the State Department. He asked us to pass along the following information to anyone who will be applying for jobs in the federal government, since all would require a background investigation and in some instances a security clearance.

The documents released during the past few months through Wikileaks are still considered classified documents. He recommends that you DO NOT post links to these documents nor make comments on social media sites such as Facebook or through Twitter. Engaging in these activities would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information, which is part of most positions with the federal government.

Regards,
Office of Career Services




The comments posted on student, Amrani's website after the email, confirm that similar letters have been sent to Georgetown students. A number of the comments attack the idea, others support the suggestion that even discussing Wikileaks on social media sites could kill a career. Others like commenter Taylor Wray, suggest that the government is going to end up with a bad situation:

Don't try to compete with WikiLeaks when it comes to the grassroots, State Department. You'll end up recruiting a bunch of young, conservative secrecy hawks who will, in the long term, only open you up to yet more WikiLeaks. As a part of our government that desperately needs manpower in order to fulfill it's expanded mission set in Afghanistan and elsewhere, State should be co-opting the popularity WikiLeaks has immediately brought to the foreign policy field in order to make their jobs look more desirable, not rejecting the most exciting development in foreign policy since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Huffingtonpost reports,

http://www.opednews.com/articles/State-Department-to-Ivy-Le-by-Rob-Kall-101204-204.html
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 08:43 AM
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1. That's the smell of fascism in the morning...
smells like sh*t.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 08:51 AM
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3. maybe they want applicants that don't break the law
by hacking into government computers or supporting breaking the law by hackers
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 09:22 AM
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4. Or maybe they want people that never question anything and always follow orders.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 01:23 PM
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5. Bingo!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 11:49 PM
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14. Lord forbid that an employer hires employees that follow orders
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 03:36 PM
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11. Yes, that's a good little prole.
We wouldn't want to question authority, now would we David?
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 05:00 PM
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12. and how is discussing wikileaks
breaking the law? I wasn't aware that one had to hack into government computers in order to discuss or link to wikileaks. Hell, we're discussing wikileaks right now. You lawbreaking, gummint computer-hacking, criminal you. :rofl:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 06:10 PM
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13. How about the governemnt breaking the law?
Or do you not care so much about that?
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 08:45 AM
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2. By it's actions, State betrays the truth of the leaks.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 01:28 PM
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6. State Dept. Denies WikiLeaks Warning to Columbia
Spokesman Says No Advice About WikiLeaks Has Been Given to Anyone Beyond the State Department

... The Huffington Post received a message from State Department spokesman Philip J. Crowley that reads:

"This is not true. We have instructed State Department employees not to access the WikiLeaks site and download posted documents using an unclassified network since these documents are still classified. We condemn what Mr. Assange is doing, but have given no advice to anyone beyond the State Department to my knowledge."

Earlier, a spokesman for the Ivy League school confirmed Saturday that the Office of Career Services sent an e-mail to students at the School of International and Public Affairs.

The Nov. 30 e-mail says an alumnus at the U.S. State Department had contacted the office, saying the diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks were "still considered classified." ...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/04/national/main7118464.shtml




OMB: WikiLeaks off-limits to federal workers without clearance
By Ed O'Keefe
Updated 8:48 a.m. ET

... Career counselors at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs urged students not to post links to the documents or make comments on social media Web sites, including Facebook or Twitter.

"Engaging in these activities would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information, which is part of most positions with the federal government," said an e-mail the office said it sent to students on the advice of an alumnus who works for the State Department.

But the employee's warning, "does not represent a formal policy position," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Saturday.

"This sounds like an overly-zealous employee," Crowley said in an e-mail. "Our focus is advising current employees not to download classified documents to an unclassified network. While we condemn what WikiLeaks has done, we cannot control what is done through private Internet accounts." ...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/12/wikileaks_off-limits_to_unauth.html
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 02:38 PM
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8. Already lying about it?
My my, that was quick.

Never again will you be able to leave a boring meeting by saying "I have to go take a leak"
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 02:53 PM
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9. Could be. But I really don't see any reason to adopt that take on it.
Alumni of programs often send their own personal advice to alma maters
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 02:21 PM
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7. State dept warns ivy league students to - go down to the coffee shop
and use your laptop and an assumed identity before you read the truth.

Down with freedom, down with liberty.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 03:34 PM
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10. Freedom of speech seems to be disappearing...
Will anyone care, or notice?
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 12:47 AM
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15. Why Only Ivy League Schools? Should we take this to mean
that they imply community college students are already disqualified from working for the State Dept.?
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 05:15 AM
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16. Yes, servants to the ruling class come from the Ivy League universities. Just take a look at the
congress, administration, the federal court bench and see from which universities these people graduated from and you will have your answer.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 08:48 AM
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17. FaceBook is for fools
DU is as public and broadcast as I wish to go.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-10 10:19 AM
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18. Indeed. nt
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