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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:23 PM
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From Daily Kos: Liars, and PUMAs, and Trolls, Oh My!
Dear Mr. President, I demand that you lead me! And by that, of course, I mean you should totally ignore your own judgment and pretend you're me, because managing my own life is just too hard - I'd rather manage yours. Talking to you in my imagination is much easier than taking responsibility as a citizen for my own role in America's progress or lack thereof. Some would say that my attitude is a symptom of the problem, but to those people I have a very clear and compelling rebuttal: Shut up! I did not join Daily Kos three weeks ago (UID: 47873221937293328) just to see it turn into a place where impotent, self-destructive whining and character assassination of Democrats is treated like a bad thing.

Troubadour's diary :: ::
Now, I've thought about this very carefully - which is to say, I've studied my holy canon of HuffPo editorials, Glenn Greenwald articles, and Cenk Uygur screeds - and I've come to the eminently rational, constructive conclusion that the best way forward is to (a)completely destroy the Democratic Party, (b)turn once-liberal blogs into left-flavored teabagger hate spigots, and (c)demonize every identifiably human individual who comes within a country mile of holding office until the only people who can safely do so are those whose criminality exceeds all possible exaggeration.

I have heard the claim that this is all a pathetic, ego-driven attempt to deflect responsibility for our failure to produce a Congress amenable to our agenda. I have also heard the claim that obsessing on the decisions of one man indicates simple-minded authoritarianism incapable of self-governance in a constitutional, three-branch system. To everyone who thinks that, I think you'll find my counter-argument persuasive: Shut up!

It was not we who failed to elect a Congress that would pass our agenda - that was Obama's failure. He failed to make the American people do what liberal activists demand, which is the entire purpose of democracy - it even says so right in the Declaration of Independence, right after Thomas Jefferson's eloquent "Free Mumia" cantata.

Our choice is clear: Either we can get serious, return to reality, and focus on making progress like intelligent adult citizens of a democratic republic...BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA...(gasp) oooo, heh, I slay myself sometimes...or we can stop letting little things like elections, separation of powers, laws, political reality, and moral consistency get in the way of striking a blow for the proletariat. Come on, boys and girls, whaddaya say? Let's have a sequel to the Weimar Republic, with Reds and brownshirts battling it out in the streets in a colossal rematch - maybe the outcome will be different this time.

Surely, given everything we've seen in our history, the American people would prefer to be dominated by a bunch of obscurantist economic theoreticians, endlessly fractious identity constituencies, and limitlessly petty political nitpickers rather than be violently ruled by a bunch of fascistic dullards with simple-minded slogans and beliefs they can summarize in bathroom-stall graffiti. We're just a hop, skip, and a jump away from anarcho-syndicalism becoming a regular topic of dinner conversation in typical American homes, aren't we? Of course, some people insist this is a false dilemma, and that America's survival during the Great Depression largely rested on rejecting it in favor of more holistic politics, but they're forgetting one thing: Shut up!

If Obama won't force us to be competent citizens - another gargantuan failure on his part (why does he victimize us so?) - then I guess we'll just have to go for our own oligarchy instead of acting intelligently to prevent the right-wing version from ruling us. And to lead this Revolutionary Council, I propose the following triumvirate of strong, constructive leaders, who have proven their credentials as non-sellouts:

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This is spot on! The poo flinging begins in 3..2...
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:27 PM
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1. Trite gibberish.
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:29 PM
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2. I doubt
you read anything past the first line..but go ahead. DO what you do best... flame away...
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:34 PM
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4. The author, like so many of you, can't seem to make up her mind.
As another DUer so acerbically observed yesterday, "The Far Left Purists are irrelevant!" is running a close race with "The Far Left Purists are bringing down the party!"

Both of those things can't be true. You need to pick one.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:37 PM
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6. need? Who says what "we" need? That's rather authoritarian of you. nt
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:40 PM
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8. Or you can keep maintaining utterly inconsistent positions
And look like the hacks that you are.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:43 PM
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9. Every person I actually know is comprised of contradictions and the ones who aren't are
personality disordered.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:47 PM
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10. Human cognition runs on a dialectic between disonant factors. There would be no
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 02:01 PM by patrice
cognition without disonance.

The reason for this is that Reality, as Science shows us in every way imaginable, is NOT the same, 100% identical, thing as the verbalized conceptualizations that we use (rather somewhat effectively by the way) ONLY to refer to it.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:58 PM
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11. That was almost as word-salad-y as the OP.
But some things really are contradictions. Either the progressive wing of the Democratic party are irrelevant OR they have the power to destroy the party, the President, the country, etc. Irrelevant people have no power. Powerful people are not irrelevant.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:00 PM
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12. And that's just as authoritarian as anything the Reich says and just as the President CAN'T do it
FOR you, I cannot make up for your lack of familiarity with the concepts that I am applying.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:02 PM
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13. Though I did just add some parantheses to help you out a bit. nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:03 PM
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14. OR - your refusal to apply them - IF you are familiar with those concepts, that is. nt
Edited on Thu Dec-09-10 02:04 PM by patrice
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:05 PM
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15. Uh, okay.
:crazy:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 04:10 PM
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18. Pattern = blame others, for example the President, or maybe someone posting on the internet, for
one's own limitations.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:39 PM
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7. P.S. That's a rather oppressive dictate you have going on there. nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 02:21 PM
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16. Speaking of "trite", is there anything more trite than "You're either _______or you are ______"?
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 03:28 PM
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17. +1
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:31 PM
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3. Oh my, that's brilliant...
"holy canon of HuffPo editorials, Glenn Greenwald articles, and Cenk Uygur screeds"

:rofl:

K&R.

Sid
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-10 01:36 PM
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5. Wheww! I "need a cigarette". nt
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