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WizardLeft62 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:15 PM Original message |
"Obama Isn’t Spineless, He’s Conservative" By Paul Street |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. in a very old school sense |
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molly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. That hypothesis makes no sense. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Opposition back then is meaningless |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Compared to the author, who is a Marxist, I suppose most |
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WizardLeft62 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yes, the DLC Democrats are Republican-Lite |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. At first I thought that Obama's praise of Reagan was a political ploy. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. His over blown rhetoric is just that, nothing more than hot air. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. I no longer have ANY faith in this man. n/t |
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mrdmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. A leader is someone who takes the lead on matters and endeavors |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Well said. n/t |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
28. +1000 nt |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. do you have any proof that Paul Street is a marxist? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Here: |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 02:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. wikipedia is your source ? Read about internet character assassination. (link) |
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WizardLeft62 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 05:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Agree 100% |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Would you mind citing an example. |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. And what's wrong with being a Marxist? |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 06:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. +10 |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. If he is a Marxist, so what? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Nothing, if that's what you think. But probably 99.9% of |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Yes, or by anyone who remembers the 1960s |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Conservative/liberal is a differenct spectrum than socialist/capitalist. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 09:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
40. It seems to me that Jesus would be included in that group. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Good thing he's not running for POTUS, then. NT |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. using your 'source' |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 02:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
59. Attack the person, not the argument. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. You got a problem with Marxists? |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. an excellent read/ thank you |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. Paul Street |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. speak for yourself |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I did. And for many others who are Democrats. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. McCarthyites do not speak for us either, |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
38. Right, it looks like Goldman Sachs speaks for most Ds - or they speak for them |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. You should listen to the left though |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. Who speaks for you? Do you like Sen Sanders? I am so curious who you |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Why not? He's a Marxist, not a Stalinist or even a Leninist. |
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WizardLeft62 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Noam Chomsky |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. your destroy the messenger path seems to be the only one you have left |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Another perspective is good. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. that's kind of like a FOX NEWS debate |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I haven't watched fox news for a long time. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. They sound just like any other McCarthyite shite flinger |
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dreamnightwind (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 07:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. You're correct on this point |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 06:49 AM Response to Reply #15 |
34. It's an all too familiar path. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. I think that might be a very good person to listen to. n/t |
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Scruffy1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. I will listen to whoever I want. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Shoot the messenger |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Listening to someone who criticizes pseudo populism...as it perpetuates corporatism & imperialism... |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 07:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Yes, we should listen to him. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. sad but true. He throws us a few bones and hooves, but the rich get the meat |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. He shouldn't be claiming that he is a Democrat . nt |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
57. +1000! |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
60. +1001 |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
27. K & R nt |
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Fokker Trip (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
30. Between Winkileaks and Obama's position on tax breaks.. |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. bingo |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
63. I'm afraid you're right. Obama is a neocon. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
37. Knock-knock.... Who's there? |
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WizardLeft62 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
64. Samir Amin - Capitalism In Crisis: An Obsolete System |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
43. Don't believe Paul Street, then try this one |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. It's almost as if the ground-work were being laid for landslide Republican wins of the presidency, |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
54. K&R |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-13-10 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
58. bi-partisanship is really just kissing GOP Ass.. but Obama said it was OK, it tastes like Chicken.. |
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colbertforpresident (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. Obama lost my vote |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
65. Left isn't getting obama's back, so don't expect him to stick his neck out too |
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WizardLeft62 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Obama is no "Lefty" or "Liberal" |
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Creative (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
67. Funny... |
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WizardLeft62 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. And... a comedy of errors... |
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WizardLeft62 (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-17-10 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
69. Obama = Republican |
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