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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 06:20 AM
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The Rise of Killer Drones That Can Think for Themselves


AlterNet / By Rania Khalek

The Rise of Killer Drones That Can Think for Themselves
The U.S. military may be a decade or so away from deploying an army of pilotless drones capable of collaborating and killing without any human guidance.

October 2, 2011 |


There must be a crazy-haired mad scientist roaming the U.S. military’s research laboratories unsupervised. That’s the most reasonable explanation for the military's latest advancement in drone technology.

Drones, also known as Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV), are flying robots remotely operated by pilots thousands of miles away, allowing soldiers to spy, survey, and obliterate the so-called enemy at the press of a button, much like a video game, except in the real world people die. As though video game warfare wasn't disturbing enough, it appears the military has gone even further, attempting to remove human control from the equation.

According to the Washington Post’s Peter Finn, the U.S. military is a decade or so away from deploying an army of pilotless drones capable of collaborating with one another in order to hunt down, identify, and annihilate an enemy combatant all on their own, without any human guidance. The U.S. military has teamed up with the Georgia Tech Research Institute to test these autonomous aerial drones, which will use facial-recognition type software to identify the targeted individual.

In other words, in the very near future, automated flying robots, instead of human pilots, will make decisions on whether or not to launch an attack to annihilate human beings on the ground based on biometrics software. I can think of a half-dozen science fiction movies (Terminator, anyone?) where allowing the machines to call the shots, particularly when dealing with life and death, backfired on their human overlords. ..........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/story/152597/_the_rise_of_killer_drones_that_can_think_for_themselves_/



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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 06:24 AM
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1. Ahh -- Skynet! What could go wrong, ehh? (NT)
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 06:33 AM
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2. K&R
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Owlet Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 06:36 AM
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3. Maybe Anonymous could hack into them
and turn them...

hmmm...funny..

a black helicopter is hovering just outside my window.

dog is going nuts.

better check on him.


brb
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 07:44 AM
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4. What kind of idiot actually builds these things? An endangered species.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:48 AM
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5. Second Variety -- PK Dick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Variety

Second Variety -- From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Second Variety" is an influential short story by Philip K. Dick first published in Space Science Fiction magazine, in May 1953. It is one of Dick's many stories in which nuclear war has rendered the Earth's surface an uninhabitable, gray ash pile, and the only things remaining are killer robots and a scattered humanity. The short story "Jon's World" (1954) revisited the claw-infested world of "Second Variety".

"Second Variety" occurs in the aftermath of an extensive nuclear war between the Soviet Union (sometimes referred to as Russia) and the United Nations. Early Soviet victories forced the North American government and production to flee to a Moon Base, leaving the majority of their troops behind. To counter the almost complete Soviet victory, U.N. technicians develop robots, nicknamed claws—the basic models are "a churning sphere of blades and metal" that ambush their unsuspecting victims "spinning, creeping, shaking themselves up suddenly from the gray ash and darting toward… ." U.N. forces are protected from the claws by a special radiation-emitting wrist tab. Within six years, the sophisticated and independent claws have destroyed the Soviet forces, repairing and redesigning themselves in automated underground factories run without any human oversight.

The U.N. forces receive a message from the Soviets asking for a policy-level officer to go to them for a gravely urgent conference. The U.N. victory was costlier than they had expected. Major Joseph Hendricks is sent to negotiate with the Soviets. En route to the rendezvous, he meets a small boy named "David" who asks to accompany Hendricks. When they near the Soviet bunker, soldiers immediately kill the boy, revealing him to be a robot. The claws' development program has evolved to develop sophisticated robots identical to humans designed to infiltrate and kill. The three Soviets met by Major Hendricks—Klaus, Rudi and Tasso—reveal that the entire Soviet army and command structure collapsed under the onslaught of the new robots.
From salvaged internal metal identification plates, two varieties are identified: I-V, a wounded soldier, and III-V, David. The II-V—the "second variety"—remains unknown. The different models are produced independently of each other in different factories. The Soviets also reveal that the U.N. protective tabs are ineffective against the new robots. Hendricks attempts to transmit a warning to his H.Q. bunker, but is unable to do so.

During the night, Klaus kills Rudi, mistakenly believing he is the II-V. The next morning, Hendricks and the two remaining Soviets return to the U.N. lines. When they reach the bunker, they discover it overrun: a crowd of David and Wounded Soldier model robots attack, but Tasso destroys them with a very powerful hand grenade, stating that it was designed to destroy the robots. Hendricks and Tasso flee, leaving Klaus to the old-style claws. However, Klaus survives both the claws and the bomb blast only to be shot by Tasso, sending "gears and wheels" flying. Tasso tells Hendricks that Klaus must have been the II-V robot.

Hendricks, now suffering from a wounded arm and internal injuries, hopes to escape to the Moon Base. He and Tasso search for a hidden escape rocket, which is revealed as a single-seat spacecraft. Hendricks attempts to leave, but Tasso quickly subdues him. She convinces him to let her leave and send back help. In his injured state, he has no choice but to agree. Hendricks provides Tasso with the signal code needed to find the Moon Base.

Alone and armed with Tasso's pistol, Hendricks returns to Klaus's remains and discovers from the parts that the robot was not a II-V, but a IV-V. A group of robots then attack Hendricks, including Davids, Wounded Soldiers, and several Tasso—the true II-V—models. Hendricks recognizes that he has doomed the Moon Base by sending a robot to them, and that he cannot withstand the onslaught of robots attacking him. As the Tasso models approach, Hendricks notices the bombs clipped to their belts, and recalls that the first Tasso used one to destroy other claws. At his end, Hendricks is vaguely comforted by the thought that the claws are designing, developing, and producing weapons meant for killing other claws.

Critical analysis

Dick said of the story: "My grand theme—who is human and who only appears (masquerading) as human?—emerges most fully. Unless we can individually and collectively be certain of the answer to this question, we face what is, in my view, the most serious problem possible. Without answering it adequately, we cannot even be certain of our own selves. I cannot even know myself, let alone you. So I keep working on this theme; to me nothing is as important a question. And the answer comes very hard."<1>
Reviewing the story, critic Zack Handlen wrote, "'Second Variety' is grim, violent, and suspenseful. There’s enough characterization to keep the protagonists from being indistinguishable, but not much beyond that. While most of the twists are easy to spot once you discover the main plot—basically 'Are you or aren’t you a machine' deal—they still have an impact, and Dick makes his point quite clearly. Which isn’t something you can say for much of his other work—<'Second Variety'> is the most user-friendly piece of his I’ve read. There’s enough uncertainty to know it’s Dick; questions of identity keep popping up, and the good guys/bad guys line is pretty well obliterated by the end. But the plot is logical, and there is a point A to point B to point C evolution that you can follow without too much trouble."
He also remarked on the similarities between "Second Variety" and the Terminator films, writing: "When the claws/screamers start changing, their newest models take human forms for much the same reasons the T-800 was created."
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:01 AM
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6. Are they smart enough to follow the Nuremberg Principles?
That is, do they have the intelligence to refuse to kill innocents, even if ordered to?

If not, then they're not qualified to carry weapons. It's simple enough.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:21 AM
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7. The ultimate betrayal of moral values; abdication of PERSONAL risk:responsibility.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:22 AM
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8. Just like the Wall Street Machine. nt
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 03:48 PM
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9. The hunter-seekers in the sci-fi novel "Dune"
sound a lot like these killer drones. Maybe the hunter-seekers were the prototype.

Hunter-seeker – "Ravening sliver of suspensor-buoyed metal guided as a weapon by a nearby control console; common assassination device."<3> Floating in mid-air, it kills by entering the body and following nerve pathways to vital organs. A hunter-seeker is employed in Dune in an assassination attempt on Paul Atreides.<4>

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dune_terminology
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 04:04 PM
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10. Target recognition courtesy of ...
Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 04:04 PM by GeorgeGist


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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 05:39 PM
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11. They are efficient!
They don't need pilots, they'll be cheap to fly, they're automation at it's finest! I mean, if you can't get on board pun intended) with technology then get out of the way! Plus, they're just plain cool.

:sarcasm:
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