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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:35 PM
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Barnes & Noble New Policy re: Physical vs Electronic books
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/barnes-noble-removes-100-dc-graphic-novels_b39731

Barnes & Noble Removes 100 DC Graphic Novels

In response to a recent exclusive deal between Amazon and DC Entertainment, Barnes & Noble will remove 100 DC graphic novels from its shelves. This includes Superman, Batman and Watchmen.

Barnes & Noble chief merchant Jaime Carey released this statement: “Regardless of the publisher, we will not stock physical books in our stores if we are not offered the available digital format. To sell and promote the physical book in our store showrooms and not have the ebook available for sale would undermine our promise to Barnes & Noble customers to make available any book, anywhere, anytime.”

The Wall Street Journal has more: “The move follows the Sept. 29 disclosure by DC Entertainment that it struck an exclusive agreement with Amazon.com Inc. to make the titles available for Amazon’s new Kindle Fire tablet, expected to ship Nov. 15.”


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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:45 PM
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1. B and N is screwed either way
THey need to concentrate on making their stores better, preferably (in my opinion) by carrying a wider stock. I still love to browse a good bookstore and many times a B and N is all I can find. Cutting down on selection just hurts them.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:50 PM
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12. It's just "Graphic Novels." I guess if that's all you read...you are pissed???
:shrug: We both have their "Nook" and love it for e-reader. We still buy books and used books. We are "weird" I guess that we can embrace new technology...yet still use and cherish the old?

Go to a Used Bookstore if you miss your "Graphic Novels" that they are cutting out. Or buy a Kindle and order from Amazon the next time one that you miss comes out.

It's not a big problem... It's just more choices which is good for all of us.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:49 PM
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2. Barnes & Noble just signed their death warrant.
E-books and real books are different clientele.
I want the advantage of real books.
I have no interest in E-books. I do plenty enough reading on computer screens as it is.
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:08 PM
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4. Have you actually tried the kindle, swear to god it feels just like reading a book.
That e-ink or whatever they use is magic. I don't get any of the computer eye strain I normally get from reading on a computer.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:05 PM
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7. I have a Kindle, got one of the 2nd version Amazon put out
and I love it too. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

For things that I want to just sit down and read.

But for books that I want to not just read but to USE - for instance, some cookbooks. I LOVE beautiful cookbooks with gorgeous color photos. I like to sit and just browse through them, read the recipes and look at the pictures. I can't see doing that on a Kindle, especially my b&w version - Same with magazines. Maybe I'd think differently if I had a color reader.

My only criticism of it is that the screen is kinda dark and I need a lot of light to be able to read it.



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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:39 PM
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10. We both have the "BnN" Nook Reader and we love it.
I don't see B&N going down over this "TURF WAR."

If you like the soft light E-Reader that BnN has and you get some great books you might not have thought of pushed to you as you sip coffee and take time to "unwind" in their pleasant surroundings...then you don't need all the hype.

After all if you have an I-Phone/I-Pad and Gazillion Cable along with Gaming and the Rest...why would you TRASH the others who just LOVE their "NOOKS!"

We are fine with them. B&N can make a profit off of us unless they get too aggressive. :shrug:
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 04:56 PM
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3. I wonder, are books the new 8-trac cassette?
I hope not. I much prefer them to the digital version but then, I'm an old fart.
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 05:09 PM
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5. As a recently converted 20 something e-book user, I don't even consider the physical copy anymore.
If it doesn't have a e-book version it might aswell not exist.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 06:52 PM
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6. Could you please explain something to me...
I don't have an e-book. Don't know that much about them. My hard-copy book collection is mostly non-fiction (political issues and such). They're all underlined or highlighted and have notes in the margins etc. It makes it easy to go back and find important passages that I want to remember.

How do you do that in an e book? Is it possible to add notes or underline passages? In terms of my needs, it would be very inconvenient not to be able to do that.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:26 PM
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8. It depends on the reader
I know on the Sony PRS-950 you can highlight text, make notes, and bookmark selections.

I've always had a big book collection and been an avid reader. Economics diverted me more often to the library than the bookstore (and we don't even have a bookstore in town now that Borders shut down), but E-books are so much more practical and available. The clincher is my sight isn't as good as it used to be, and the E-ink readers are very easy one the eyes.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:30 PM
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14. +! ...good comment on how some of us use the e-readers.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:51 PM
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16. I get most of my books from the library, too. For the same reason...
I'm on a limited income and can't afford to purchase all the books I'd like to read. Anything that's fiction I usually get from the library.

Before our local Border's shut down I'd get coupons in my email every week - 20, 30, sometimes 40% off any book. It was a big help. Now that Border's is closed I'll have a difficult time affording the books I want; although I find that used books from Amazon is a good source.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 08:11 PM
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13. Check out the B&N "NOOK."..soft light reader ...with access to
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 08:17 PM by KoKo
EPUb for books from Library and the B&N collection of books.

It's great for us olders...you can increase the type size and even read it in bed... Plus take it with you waiting for car repair, waiting rooms...etc.

If you are near a Barnes & Noble you can check in and they have a Kiosk with helpful people who will let you try it out and see if you like the black and white (easy on the eyes reader) or the new Color...which is closer to an I-Pad but like with I-Pad you will have to pay to read the magazines.

It's cool stuff. But, not anything that would replace what you are talking about for taking notes, highliting and going back to find.

STILL...they will get there one day. But, for those of us who love the smell, touch and reference of "BOOKS" they won't all be replaced by the E-Readers.

Once you have an E-Reader you will not want to see it taken away, either. It's a great addition. Google the "Nook" on C-Net, Reviews. We did a lot of research before we bought ours.

Our 20 Something Daughter who's a Techie loves her Nook...and also owns an I-Pad which she uses for everything a laptop would do. But,she never misses going to a used book store when she travels for business, either.

She loves all of it! Go Figure? Maybe she's weird...but she just seems to be of the new generation who uses it all..
BTW...she makes enough to afford it and that's her indulgence. It's her priorities. She works in Education where she teaches students from many countries and the US...they are always a step ahead of her....So...she keeps up.
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 10:21 PM
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17. I dunno - got the Nook but after buying 40 books on it I think I will go back to paper
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 10:22 PM by Hestia
Not that I don't like it and all, but sometimes the Nook price is more than the paperback. I just can't see spending over $1.99 for a digital format. I understand the author needs to get paid, but come one, $12.99 for a new "book"? It's the format price that gets me, not the reader itself. With a print book, I'll pay $40 plus, but not digital.

They don't have a tenth of the books I want on Nook, so I feel like I've wasted my money. When they do, it's generally an out of print book that's been off the lists for over 20 years and they want me to pay $12.99 + just because it is has been reissued digital and I can get it for a penny used? No, that's alright. They used to do a Free Friday but I haven't been able to find that for a couple of weeks.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 09:40 PM
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15. you can with kindle reader for PC
it's wonderful. You can highlight, make notes and also bookmarks. I love it and I, who thought I'd NEVER, ever, ever be interested in digitally delivered books LOVE the kindle. I'll get a real one when I can afford it. But the PC reader is free, so you can save money on your books, and that's a good thing.

I'll tell you what else. As a confirmed bookaholic and lover of all things printed on paper, I got my belly FULL of all things printed on paper recently when we moved. Everyone in my household is past the age when we can sling boxes of books and papers around like an 18-yeaer old. I got totally overwhelmed with my collection of books, and that's AFTER I'd gotten rid of a good many of them. And then there were those files of papers of various things. At one point I looked at my binder of bank statements and said, "I do NOT want another piece of paper to file and keep," and broke a promise to myself NOT to go paperless with the bank until they made it worth my while. Well, forget that. I really, really don't want any more paper in my house than absolutely necessary.

Now, I really wish I didn't have all those books -- heavy, bulky, dust-gathering, not all that saleable (even in mint condition). What good are they? Give me digital! Seriously! A Kindle will hold 3500 books. That's a LOT, actually a few more books than I owned at my peak. ;-)

The only kind of book I'm not that keen to have on Kindle is cookbooks. Everything else, digital, please.

Try it. You'll like it.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:38 PM
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9. Well, hell. As an old fart, all I can say is that getting old sucks and
Get the fuck off my lawn!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-11 07:44 PM
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11. That might be YOU...but many of us use "E-Readers" and still go to the used
Edited on Mon Oct-10-11 08:29 PM by KoKo
bookstores for stuff we can't find or have to pay to much for in "used books" from Amazon or even the B&N file.

I love my Nook! But, we still buy BOOKS.

Somehow we must be "another forgotten 99% who isn't ditching everything for "online E-Books" and paying more for online E-reading in many cases than reading the "hard copy" from used books store for authors we love who don't have "all books" yet out on E-Read.

"Different Strokes for Different Folks." Hard Copy Books are far from dead. LOL's Those of us who embrace the New Technology still read from many sources.

Edited for the 99% who still love books...not the 1% who want to throw it all away and not be adaptive between what we love of the old and still use and the new that we use when we want to because of other advantages. Sorry.

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