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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 12:21 PM
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No. 1 gun supplier to the Drug Wars in Mexico is Texas...
"Arming Mexico's drug cartels
Texas has produced more guns seized in Mexico than any other state, and Houston is the focal point of gun-running operations to the border, federal authorities said. A year-long investigation by The Washington Post for the first time reveals the top 12 stores that sold guns traced to Mexican crime scenes."

There is a video that accompanies this info.. explains the story in detail....http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/nation/guns/arming-mexicos-drug-cartels/

So as long as the U.S supplies the weapons this war is stong.... I suppose that if America would stop suppling the guns the war would not be as active....

So between Texas and Fast and Furious.... The gun dealers in the United States are doing a brisk business.....
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 12:28 PM
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1. It is the top source for those guns submitted to the US government for tracing
Edited on Sat Nov-12-11 12:29 PM by hack89
the Mexican government only has the US trace guns they a good reason to believe come from the US. The cartels actually get the majority of their weapons from the Mexican government through theft, corruption or military deserters (they want top of the line military weapons not civilian knockoffs) or from South and Central America (which are awash with cheap automatic weapons due to the various civil wars in the past 30 years).
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soapboxtalk Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 12:30 PM
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2. That war is out fault
We let weapons pour over the border and then create such a massive profit opporitunity to smuggle that the US DEA should be getting a cut of the cartel's profit.

Wait, they probably are, right?
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 12:54 PM
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3. I won't agree that War is our fault
Centuries of Corrupt Governence dictated by the Wealthy Elite Land Barrons with Centuries long history of suppressing and killing the Working Peasent Class has back fired on them severly.

They set the conditions by which the drug trade easily moved into Mexico's already corrupt supressive Military / Police Force

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 12:55 PM
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4. Electrify Texas......maybe its time they check whats leaving the country a little more closely..,..
Edited on Sat Nov-12-11 01:53 PM by Historic NY
its complained that the border is too porous because illegals get in.......how about weapons getting out. amazing video.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:21 AM
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10. Meanwhile, illegals from Syria, Iran, Yemen, Pakistan, Sudan waltz right in.
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 11:21 AM by Tejas
Pay no mind to the FULLY AUTOMATIC weapons landing in Mexico from not the US, but China, South America etc.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 01:18 PM
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5. correction: ATF is No. 1 gun supplier to the Drug Wars in Mexico
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 04:49 PM
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7. well. that's what 1000 RW radio stations and fox say every day
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:15 AM
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9. So...Bush jr didn't 'walk' guns to Mexico?
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:30 AM
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12. well, they say it was obama. so when you you say the ATF without specifying the origins of the proga
program i had to point that out.

because the left has no way to answer 1000 radio stations spreading the same lie just to start some hearing on holder, basically to attack obama, i think there has to be a clarification.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:43 AM
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13. CLEANUPATF.org
www.cleanupatf.org

A board created and run by current and former ATF personnel, good people that are absolutely sick and tired of the way the ATF masters have gotten innocent people killed.

But you'll probably accuse them of being RW too...
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 12:43 PM
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15. no, i'm just putting it in perspective that many progressives often miss- that the RW get to
have it both ways and dominate messaging in the US.

yes, investigate and fix it, but don't blame obama for something that was typical bushshit, or because someone like holder was taking over a department well-corrupted by bush/rove and couldn't fix everything ASAP, if at all.
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 02:41 PM
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6. Anyone who believes this story
needs to get their head checked. Do you guys really believe the Mexican drug cartels will waste their money on civilian style, expensive and somewhat risky to obtain(even in Texas) American civilian weapons? The only thing the US supplies is the capital need to purchase real weapons through the sale of those drugs in the US.

Most likely they are getting the majority of their guns from the Mexican military as suggested by post #1 or possibly from the old soviet block countries/recent war zone in African where they are awash with automatic weapons
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:28 AM
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11. It was written for the clueless that would ignore the ATF's international incident.

ITAR, how does it work? ;)
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Major Nikon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 06:34 PM
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16. You should inform Wash Post's ombudsman
I'm sure they would appreciate your helpful insight that soundly debunks their year long research effort.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-11 05:15 PM
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8. Legalize Pot.
And watch the market for clandestine military weapons dry up.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 12:03 PM
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14. No doubt.
Marijuana has never killed anyone but the huge profits tied to prohibition is a bloody tragedy. Maintaining the "war on drugs" is just another way to maintain the economic status quo, destroying lives for profits.
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