The warlords of America - John Pilger

[0rion]

08/20/04 -- Most of the US's recent wars were launched by Democratic presidents. Why expect better of Kerry? The debate between US liberals and conservatives is a fake; Bush may be the lesser evil.

On 6 May last, the US House of Representatives passed a resolution which, in effect, authorised a "pre-emptive" attack on Iran. The vote was 376-3. Undeterred by the accelerating disaster in Iraq, Republicans and Democrats, wrote one commentator, "once again joined hands to assert the responsibilities of American power".

The Warlords of America - John Pilger

[Jim Sagle]

1. Ahhh yesss...the Al-Jazeerah Left weighs in with its "Gore=Bush"

chickenshit bullshit, updated for 2004.

[0rion]

2. As a Democrat, I'm open to criticism.....

we should take a look at ourselves sometimes and be critical, it doesn't mean I agree with Pilger but I'm open to his commentary.

[thebigidea]

6. the Al-Jazeerah Left? What an awful turn of phrase.

Blegh. Disgusting.

[Classical_Liberal]

8. Pilger was against the Afghanistan part of the war, and I didn't agree

with that then and I still don't, however, he has a right to have his say, as does Al Jazeera, both aljazeera.com(the actual website of the arab newchannel), and the rather ethically challenged aljezeera.info website, and your response is nothing but guilt by association, and demagoguery.

Having said that Pilger smear of Bresinsky as a "Zionist" in this peace was similarly unexamined, since Bresinsky has called for Israel to leave the West Bank. Frankly if Kerry were listening to the man we would be better off then we are with his present advisors, Will Marshall, Michael Rubin and Rand Beers.

[paulk]

3. Pilger's made a career trashing america

another european leftist (well, australian) who doesn't know jackshit about this country. The US is responsible for every bad thing in the world. OK, fine. There's a market for it. It's a good gig.

[Jim Sagle]

4. It's a GREAT gig, plus he gets applause for "not selling out."

;)

[KoKo]

5. Pilger is one of my favorites. But this snip from his book is from

some months ago. My hope is that Pilger is writing in his book about the "Worst Case Scenario." And, that events in Iraq have now gotten the attention of so many..that we have a chance of heading off our disastrous foreign policy which has been in place for decades.

His article is the "darkest scenario." One that I and others have nightmares about.

The saving grace is that people may have awakened to what US foreign policy has been about and we have a chance to save us from a "train wreck" of Empire Implosion.

If we can't do it...I have a sneaking suspicion that our US Economy will be the "thing" that brings us down.. Our sinking, debt ridden, debt laden economy dependent on Japanes and Chinese Investment is a time bomb.

We may be saved through hard times before we run off the cliff like the lemmings. But, I hope Kerry doesn't go the road Pilger is predicting or we are truly doomed.

I have to hope for better...and that Kerry will get the message that we've had enough of our "evil doer" foreign policy and we need to get a grip on things under his administration. I hope he will rise to that...I think he will with much help from those like Pilger who see the pitfalls. :shrug:

[CanIgonow]

7. You would think that after we destroyed the democratically

elected government of Mossadegh in Iran and installed our puppet, the Shah of Iran,that we would have some qualms about invading that country on a trumped up pretext like the one we made in Iraq.And you and I would be wrong.Among the despotic and megalomaniacal rulers in the Middle East, only the Shah of Iran rivaled Saddam Hussein in his brutality and ruthlessness.His ambition to acquire more and more lethal weapons was literally insatiable.And yet as the saying goes,
"he is an SOB but he is our SOB".The Mullahs who now control Iran are probably just as brutal as the Shah ever was,but because they exhibit a nasty streak of independence they must be taught a lesson according to the playbook of the Bush administration.All of these will continue to bankrupt our treasury, cause the deaths of many of our poor white, black and hispanic soldiers and countless Iranian lives.Hopefully,the Iranians would not have developed an atomic weapon by the time we decide to launch George's second excellent adventure.

As we continue to create havoc among peoples less well endowed than we are, we continue to gather enemies faster than Sparta in its high and mighty days.Who knows how this folly is going to end?My hopes right now rest on our running out of money to finance our folly and simply withdraw from the warmaking business.

[geek tragedy]

9. Pilger is a liar and a first-class anti-American (and I don't use that

term lightly).

He said Bush's America was similar to Adolf Hitler's Germany.

And now he's saying that Kerry could be worse.

He can kiss my liberal American ass.

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