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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:42 AM
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George Bush Will be "Outed" and Dissed by Kitty Kelly in 12 Days

George Bush Will be "Outed" and Dissed by Kitty Kelly in 12 Days
by Arturo1 • Friday September 03, 2004 at 12:51 PM


Slash-and-burn celebrity biographer who revealed Sinatra's mother performed coathanger abortions and Nancy Reagan dug Sinatra at the White House, is set to demolish evil George W. Bush with Sept. 14 release of Bush Family biography.


the_family_bookcover.jpg, image/jpeg, 313x475

Look for it in book stores Sept. 14: Blue (it'll make the Bushes), red (Kitty Kelley books are read massively in the US), and white (it's all there, in dirt black and white).

The biography is obviously unauathorized.

It reveals alleged sex offenses against minors by Dubya's father.

It reveals the use of the White House by male hookers under Dubya.

It reveals Bush's evil plans for YOU (details of which you will have to get elsewhere), which should alarm you.

It reveals crooked business deals by every member of the Bush clan, including the oh-so-holy first lady, Laura "Round Heels" Bush.

It reveals how former first lady Babs Bush is almost a practicing witch.

It reveals how Dubya has had a very special friend in the mayor of a Tennessee city, who has has cohabited the Texas ranch many times.

It reveals the details of embarassing photographs of Bush that actually caused U.S. Govt. agents to perpetrate the anthrax mailings to destroy the building of National Enquirer and kill photo editor Stevens.
more
http://colombia.indymedia.org/news/2004/09/16349.php
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:45 AM
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1. Time to trot out Osama....
Mark my word that this *will* be overshadowed!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:09 PM
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60. It'll probably be COMPLETELY overlooked by the media, that only
wants to hear and pass along good things about bush. They don't want to bother his "beautiful mind" with any of the killing in Iraq lately, either. Why do I get the feeling the fix is in, solidly? NOTHING that's thrown at these people sticks. WHY?!?!?!? WHEN DOES THIS END???!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:34 PM
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78. wrong--she'll be on everybody including Larry King
They LOVE her and it will cause a huge sensation and probably get Kerry a crapload of undecided voters.

I feel really good about this one. And if the Royal Family complains or tries to smear her they will be revealed as the vicious vulgar criminals they are!

They are truly. Truly. Fucked!

They still have Diebold, though, that's why I won't celebrate until they are GONE!
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:45 AM
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2. Ketty Kelley's never been successfully sued
.. because she is absolutely scrupulous about making sure all her ducks are lined up in a row. She has made a long career out of probing the lives of celebrities and the royal family. As far as I know, she's never before revealed any partisan beliefs -- she just likes to dish on everyone. I can't wait for this book!
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 08:51 PM
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94. This'll be thermonuclear. And remember...
... it's not just the coke, it's the smoke Smirk did toke...

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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:46 AM
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3. How do you become "almost a practicing witch" ???
As much as I hate chimpy, I don't think this book is worth reading.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:52 AM
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7. That's an insult to witches, who aren't evil.......
Here's to my pagan pals..... :toast: :thumbsup:

Should be a good read though.... :)
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:02 AM
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14. Witches are "evil" to GAWD-fearing Bushistas.
I'm willing to give Kitty a pass on this one if it helps bring down the Bush regime.

And I'm as Wiccan/Pagan friendly as they come.
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:07 PM
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90. ditto
Amen to that. . . . I can finally say that I don't care what it takes to defeat them. . . . . They are so absolutely repulsive that anything we can do to get them OUT is justified in my book.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:51 AM
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28. if 'babs' is a witch, she's a wicked witch, and a proponent of the dark
side.

That's probably what's caused her hideous disfigurement. ;-)
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:55 AM
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31. The sanitisation of her life image and elevation to iconic
status is closely linked to official US and UK paedophilia cover-ups related to the activities of the P2 Lodge in the 1960s and 70s.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 05:56 PM
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92. Do you have any links on that? I tried to look up P2
on google, but didn't get anything relevant. I don't know anything about this, so I am interested in learning more.

Sounds pretty f*ed up.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:03 AM
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95. P2 Lodge: "The Broken Cross" by Piers Compton or
"In God's Name" by David Yallop - great book about how Pope John Paul 1 was killed off after just 30 days in office
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:34 PM
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96. Thanks!
:)
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 03:33 PM
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62. I think you may have misunderstood the question.
I don't think witches are evil. In fact, if she is a witch that might be an improvement. But I don't think you can be "almost" a witch anymore than you can "almost" be a Christian.

You either believe and worship nature or you don't. From what I've observed from the BFEE I don't think Mrs. * has any respect for nature.

I wasn't trying to insult witches or pagans.

Sorry if my comment was taken that way.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:02 AM
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12. I think I'd take most of that with a heaping pile of salt. However...
I might buy it just for the sheer shadenfreude of knowing how much the book's existence will frost their collective ass.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:32 AM
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17. you are missing the point...
It isn't saying that witches are evil, it's the fact that they are so feared by the born agains.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:46 AM
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4. Hopefully, we will have detailed discription of cocaine use by Dubya
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:51 AM
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6. And who will believe any of it, will be seen as a Democrat
provided stunt but on the other hand if it could start some serious questions going like the swift boat saga then maybe.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:48 PM
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79. Isn't she British? She's no Democrat! n/t
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:50 AM
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5. Oooooh... Victor Ashe!!!!
and I wonder if Jello Biafra's rumor that Karl Rove and Grover Norquist are an item is true too...
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #5
45. Now that's a sickening thought, but not really all that surprising....
....that KKKarl and Grover the unfriendly monster would turn to each other. Nobody else (male or female) would touch either of the vile shitbags.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #45
73. It might be sickening, but somehow it seems to fit perfectly
Really, now. When you think about it, aren't they sorta MADE for each other?

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #73
80. Don't forget Santorum and Zell--Just one big happy whatever n/y
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:52 AM
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8. So maybe Dubya gets that special swagger from somewhere else
other than Texas.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:53 AM
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9. dupe
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:01 AM
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11. It's not a dupe, that's a different forum
The same subject can be discussed in different forums

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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:53 AM
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10. This will go no where because even if has truth in it
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 08:55 AM by clydefrand
the bushies will kill it just like they do everything else negative written/said about them. Who will have Kitty Kelly on their show? Maybe Larry King because I have seen her there many times talking about the British royals. But do you really think she will be given air time to divulge anything that Neil's angry ex-wife has told Kitty? That is who has given her much of this info, isn't it? At least that is what I've read before. I hope some of it sticks, but I won't get my hopes up.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:21 PM
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56. She's been on Larry King many times
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 12:28 PM by kskiska
but the word is (don't know if it's true) that he won't have her on this time. Only because the subject is President Junior, I guess. He didn't mind dissing Nancy Reagan, Jackie Kennedy, or Frank Sinatra, but he draws the line on the Chimp. He must be afraid he won't be invited to their parties anymore.

Larry had no problem with Barbara Olsen and her Hillary-trashing filth, either, and that was while Hillary was in the White House.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:02 AM
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13. Where are you people from?
Because in America, people LOVE dirty laundry. This book is going to do well, even if *'s base does not buy it, people like to hear the goods on those that claim to be almighty, that is just the way it is. And if it takes this to bring these fools down, as opposed to all of the other scandals that they seem to survive, then so be it!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:34 AM
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19. The more moron condems it, the more popular it will become
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:29 AM
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15. She knows some, but I'd hardly call her an authoritative source
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 09:30 AM by emad aisat sana
and know for a fact her information is second and third hand.

In 1989 and again in 1993 she had MoD "D" Notices served on her in the UK - gagging orders which guard the UK's State Secrets as well as certain UKUSA-type bi-lateral State Secrets - and which - if breached - impose draconian custodial and financial penalties.

The 1989 gagging order relates to her paying for an authorised wire-tap of lawyers representing members of UK-based Truman family when they sued Margaret Thatcher for harassment and complicity with Robert Maxwell, after a bomb blew up a seaside property they owned in Dorset (which was hurriedly attributed to the IRA in a Home Office cover-up).

The case referred to was heard In Camera at the Central Criminal Court in London and resulted the Tory Party being fined £2 million and given a lifetime anti-harassment injunction to protect the Trumans. Kelly was then sued by them and fined a reported £250,000 and lumbered with lifetime injunctions to stop prying on the family and it's legal representatives.

The 1993 D Notice served on her relates to her second attempt to pry on the Trumans when they sued George H Bush in the UK and US for hiring Robert Maxwell and his named associates to conspire to murder them and their children in the seaside bomb incident. Kelly paid private investigators to wire tap attorneys' offices in Washington DC, Midland Texas and NYC in order to gain access to what were confidential UK intelligence papers relating to this incident. She also hired burglars to ransack the Trumans' home in Sutton Place, NY with the aim of finding documents which she intended to publish for her personal gain.

As far as I am aware, she was sued by the Trumans and paid an undisclosed fine but got away with more serious charges against her by pleading that anti-harassment injunctions imposed on her by the UK courts were invalid in the US.

She is also known to have paid David Icke for documents he used in his own defence in the UK libel courts when he attempted to publicise the seaside bomb biz himself and was sued.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:36 AM
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20. So she paid for information. Hmmm.
Isn't that what spies do all the time? She is a tough cookie, and she's ruthless about digging for dirt. She works like any good intelligence agency -- she gets it any way she can.

I don't think that invalidates the information she does come up with.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:43 AM
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23. It's pretty diluted and flavored to suit her own polemic....
You know the Chinese Whisper "Send Re-Inforcements for Advance" that gets passed on and on and on until it emerges as "Send Three-and-Fourpence for A Dance"???

Similar.
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michael098762001 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #15
99. LaRoucheite source for Kitty Kelley???
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/09/1694318.php
------- Forwarded message -------
From: "Michael Pugliese" <michael098762001@earthlink.net>
To: lbo-talk@lbo-talk.org
Subject: Re: Twelve days until Kitty Kelly Date: Sun, 05 Sep
2004 14:29:17 -0700

What using this source??? "TRANCE-Formation of America, "
http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/
Conspiracy Theory Research List , http://www.mail-
archive.com/cgi-bin/
htsearch?method=and&format=short&config=ctrl_listserv_aol_com&restrict=&exclude=&words=TRANCE-
Formation+of+America
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/
Results for "TRANCE-Formation"

100% Mind Control & the NWO
http://mindcontrolforums.com/slave.htm
Mind Control & the NWO Mind Control Slavery and the New
World Order According to this extremely disturbing report,
Monarch Program mind-control survivors claim to have been
used as high-tech slaves by certain intelligence agencies
and top-ranking politicians. Extracted from Nexus
Magazine,Volume 6, Number 2(February-March 1999). PO Box 30,
Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. editor@nexusmagazine.com
Telephone

San Francisco Liberation Radio will sponsor a discussion on
"Mind
Control, the Media and the CIA" this Saturday night, May 26,
starting at
7:30 p.m. at the First Unitarian Church at Geary and
Franklin Streets in
San Francisco.

Guest speakers will be Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien,
authors of the
book, TRANCE-Formation of America, documenting O'Brien's
life experience
in the CIA's Project Monarch mind-control program.
http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2001/2001-May/009838.html
Sen. Robert Byrd, Dick Cheney, and Noriega are Satanists!

What from the crappy (I watched it over the WWW)
"documentary"
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1579613.php
Consiracy (sic.) of Silence video, Child sex ring that
reached Bush Sr's Whitehouse. Cover up.
by xx Tuesday, Mar. 04, 2003 at 12:07 AM
Real media video

alleging a call boy ring run out of Boys Town in Nebraska
that provided teen and pre-teen boys for Republican pols,
Bush 41 and Reagan admin. officials,LaRoucheite junk, see
chapter 21 http://www.tarpley.net/bush21.htm ,
"Omaha."
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm#3 --
George Bush:
The
Unauthorized
Biography
by
Webster G. Tarpley
&
Anton Chaitkin
...On the morning of June 29, 1989, pandemonium erupted in
the corridors of power in the nation's capital.
``Homosexual Prostitution Probe Ensnares Official of Bush,
Reagan,'' screamed the front-page headline of the
Washington Times with the kicker ``Call Boys Took Midnight
Tour of White House.''

The Times reported, ``A homosexual prostitution ring is under
investigation by federal and District authorities and
includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and
Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides
and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to
Washington's political elite.''

The exposeé centered on the role of one Craig Spence, a
Republican powerbroker known for his lavish ``power
cocktail'' parties. Spence was well connected. He celebrated
Independence Day 1988 by conducting a midnight tour of the
White House in the company of two teenage male prostitutes
among others in his party.

Rumors circulated that a list existed of some 200 Washington
prominents who had used the call boy service. The Number Two
in charge of personnel affairs at the White House, who was
responsible for filling all the top civil service posts in
the federal bureaucracy, and Secretary of Labor Elizabeth
Dole's chief of staff, were two individuals publicly
identified as patrons of the call boy ring.

Two of the ring's call boys were allegedly KGB operatives,
according to a retired general from the Defense Intelligence
Agency interviewed by the press. But the evidence seemed to
point to a CIA sexual blackmail operation, instead. Spence's
entire mansion was covered with hidden microphones, two-way
mirrors and video cameras, ever ready to capture the
indiscretions of Washington's high, mighty and perverse. The
political criteria for proper sexual comportment had long
been established in Washington: Any kinkiness goes, so long
as you don't get caught. The popular proverb was that the
only way a politician could hurt his career was if he were
``caught with a dead woman or a live boy'' in his bed...

9. A book recently published on the Nebraska affair by a
former Republican state senator and decorated Vietnam
veteran, John W. De Camp, The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse,
Satanism and Murder in Nebraska (Lincoln, Nebraska: AWT,
Inc., 1992) tells the whole story.


--
Michael Pugliese
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:29 AM
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16. FBI SOUGHT CLAMP ON BUSH STORIES

"White House and network reporters as well as U.S.-based foreign journalists are using national security leaks to pursue proposed stories about George W. Bush's reputed relationship with a male sex-mate since his college days up to now. So contends the Federal Bureau of Investigation, in a Justice Department request to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act secret court that met in sound-proof facilities in the Justice Department Building, Washington, D.C.

The Bush reputed male sex-mate details have enabled Red China, perceived by some as a sworn enemy of the U.S., and others reportedly to blackmail or otherwise unlawfully compromise the current occupant and resident of the White House, causing the disclosure of U.S. industrial, financial, and military secrets. Various reporters, including those of British Broadcasting Company, BBC, and Canadian Broadcasting Company, CBC, have, on their own, verified and corroborated the exclusive stories by this reporter as to the Bush relationship causing a breach itself by Bush of national security."

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar17.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=384851


What is this connection with * and Victor Ashe?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1055914

George Bush * Is gay...I wonder why
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1053925#1053964

The Bush Organized Crime Family
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=875102
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:32 AM
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18. Hey, people! Kitty Kelley will be EVERYWHERE on TV!
I'm amazed that so many of you are unfamiliar with this author. Kitty Kelley has been attacked by Sinatra, banned by the Brits, and adoringly feted by TV hosts around the world.

She is not just a trash queen. She really, truly, is a journalist. Somehow, she manages to coax her sources into revealing details they've never divulged before. My colleagues in the publishing world don't doubt she knows her stuff. In the UK, where it's easy to pursue libel lawsuits, they are going ahead with the book's publication.


I should point out that the original post in this thread was merely a piece ABOUT the book -- it's not the book itself. I somehow doubt that Kitty really says Barbara is a witch, as in Wiccan -- maybe she meant "witch" as in ... well, the word that Barbara used to describe Geraldine Ferraro.

I've already ordered my copy through Amazon!

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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #18
26. I understand that we all may need to take a shower later
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 09:51 AM by ElectroPrincess
to wash off the mud slinging and filth. However, the results of this Presidential election will determine the course of our continued Democracy.

I say, get down and dirty ... scrap with all we have that can be legally presented. Go Kitty Kelly! ... by golly, we all should call CSPAN and talk her up as a true patriot and God fearing woman ... yeah, just like the right wing radicals are *playing* all of us since 1992.

Take the gloves off progressive Americans ... well, IF you want to win - because the run up to this election "ain't gonna be purdy." Amen! <eg>

on edit - darn, two typos ; )
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 02:21 PM
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61. Oh, no. We're all supposed to take the HIGH road, and NOT fight dirty
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 02:22 PM by calimary
because "then it makes us no better than them" - or some other complete and utter SMARM. I'm SICK of turning the other cheek, or refusing to be a street fighter because we supposedly have the moral high ground and the truth on our side and the truth will out. Well, I have YET to see the Good Guys win OR the "truth will out." I have YET to see the act of taking the high road get us ANYWHERE. Look what pansies we had during teh 2002 elections, and look where that got us. The problem is that we DO have truth on our side, and we ARE the Good Guys and we DO have the moral high ground - and that, and a dime, MAY get you a few minutes at a parking meter. I don't want to hear ANY MORE from people who say we musn't fight down and dirty because then it reduces us to their level. At their level, you WIN. After we WIN, THEN we can change the agenda. The Bad Guys win, with lies, smears, evil, meanness, distortion, stacking the deck, and hitting below the belt. Guess what - if THAT'S what it takes to win, LET ME IN!!!! I'm SICK TO DEATH of sending mice in to fight against rottweilers.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:38 AM
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21. Kelley may just be the one to bring into popular consciousness
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 09:39 AM by Minstrel Boy
the shadow history of the Bush family.

Sounds like she touches on the 1980s' Franklin Credit Union pedophile ring scandal, and the office of VP Bush coordinating midnight tours of the White House by callboys. Good. More people need to know just how much the Bush shit stinks.



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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #21
83. Amen to that, bro
The list of topics are just too familiar for us Bush-watchers. Remember Tarpley's unauthorized biography of Poppy Bush? Some of the same topics but with more emphasis on Shrub himself.

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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:40 AM
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22. Bet she ain't got pics of his bastard son who lives under the
name of Witold Brzeski on the South England coast in Bognor Regis, is a trained chemist with a record of bomb-making accomplices in the UK, who lost his executive post with Anita Roddick's Body Shop some ten years ago and then retrained in IT in Israel - where he was busted for laundering money to ex-Mossad renegades thrown out of the Israeli secret service....Or how he and his Russian-born wife Irina regularly receive $$$$$$checks for Christmas, birthdays etc from Junior via UK Channel Island accounts set up for them during their two-year stint as "Millenium Bug" IT consultants in North Carolina 1998-99......
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pennylane100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. Oh no, not you again
Where do you get all your fantasy scripts.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:51 AM
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27. Reality is far more horrible than fantasy where Bushes are
concerned.

My sources are credible and authoritative.

But not archived on the internet - however much anyone would want them to be.
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agingdem Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:48 AM
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25. Maybe...
that's why Dubya calls Karl Rove his "Boy Wonder"?!
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:52 AM
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29. I just added this "must read" to my Costco shopping list!
I can hardly wait to get my hands on it!

:bounce:

Kitty Kelley, you rock!

:yourock:
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 09:52 AM
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30. This is a joke, right?
It really doesn't say any of that stuff, I bet.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:06 AM
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35. The joke's on America
for not really knowing the Bush Crime Family.

And btw, can anyone tell me why this was moved out of LBN?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:48 PM
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74. Yeah, there's a ban on certain "news" sources
Indymedia is one of them. I think they frown on Drudge, tho don't always seem to remove those threads.

:shrug:

You know the routine.
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TheLiberalAmerican Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 02:15 PM
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98. I have doubts too...
I have my doubts too. Only time will tell I guess.

-TheLiberalAmerican
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:02 AM
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32. The WH is in a no-win on this one.
If they ignore it or refuse to comment on it, it looks like they know it's true but just wish it would go away. If they condemn it, they give it a whole lot of free publicity. Any chance they could pull off a Fortunate Son and have it pulled?
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:39 AM
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54. Speaking of Fortunate Son, DVD "Horns and Halos" out Oct 5th
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 09:36 AM
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66. What does Fortunate Son mean? Never heard that phrase or whatever.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:53 PM
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75. Fortunate Son is the title of a book about
George W. Bush, written by James Hatfield, who wound up discredited and then later somewhat mysterialy dead. St. Martins Press (I believe it was) destroyed its copies after printing it but before distributing it after the discrediting. It eventually got published by Softskull Press -- is that it? Google for it. I have a copy. Haven't read it. I get too depressed by some of these books. :-(

THIS one, however, sounds pretty interesting. I've never been a Kitty Kelly fan nor bought any of her books, but on this one I think I'll make an exception.
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Narraback Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:05 PM
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77. Fortunate Son is a book by Hatfield
The Bush family attempted to have it burned. Bio of *.
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Gingergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 10:17 PM
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100. Hatfield's title came from song by
Credence Clearwater Revival 'I ain't no Fortunate Son." I ain't no senator's son...
<http://www2.volstate.edu/socialscience/FinalDocs/1960s/ccrfortunateson.htm>
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:02 AM
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33. I've heard that Kitty has four beautiful Calico Cats!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:06 AM
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34. Here Kitty Kitty Kitty
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:08 AM
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48. Oh, well that explains everything then
Those calico cats fed her the entire book, straight from Satan's mouth!

/Asscrotch mode :crazy:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:24 AM
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36. To explain dupe thread this thread was moved from LBN to here
maybe the mod will move it elsewhere
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:26 AM
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37. Please keep us posted if it does! Playing yo yo with this story is
damn confusin'
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:27 AM
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38. Raise your hand if you see this as a disaster in the making
*raising hand*

Just a gut feeling. I know I am going to get swarmed by people who want all of this stuff to be true, but I don't know...this reminds me of the 'other' 9/11 book that came out at the same time as "Forbidden Truth."

Call me crazy, but I'm cringing.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:32 AM
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40. I'm not convinced that the reality of the book
will match the claims by Indymedia cos they sound like they're straight out of Sherman Skolnick's mad mind.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:34 AM
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41. Cringe away. People will read it.

People will be influenced by it.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:49 AM
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67. yep...
predict that some real issues/events get completely dismissed due to their association (i.e., inclusion in this book) with some really outlandish and impossible to document stuff.

Have to admit, however, a part of me is really curious about the book (that part of me that scans the enquirer headlines while standing in line at the store, but who never reads any of the articles.)
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:28 AM
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39. This won't help at all.........
way too over the top. People will tune this stuff out.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:36 AM
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42. Never underestimate the tackiness of the American people. nt
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 10:50 AM
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68. Scary, but true
no other way to explain the way that some cling to some really outlandish and absurd stories about the Clintons.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:36 AM
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43. Oh, for sweet Christ's sake.
GMAFB. :eyes:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:39 AM
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44. A "gay" pResident is the one thing that right wing fanatics won't accept.
Bring it on :evilgrin:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:46 AM
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46. I've got it on hold at the library and I'm 6th in line!
The county ordered 11 copies, so I should get a notice shortly after the book arrives. I can hardly wait!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 10:50 AM
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47. The prophecy of Daniel implies that the Antichrist could be gay
Daniel chapter 11 (KJV)
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:10 AM
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49. iirc
Her source for alot of this material was Neil Bush's ex-wife Sharon.
She was pissed about Neils Thai call girls.
I see she's not credited on the cover.
Anyone remember about Sharon's role?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:25 AM
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51. The Book Is about the 100+Yr Bush Family, Not Neil n/t
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:46 AM
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55. Sharon was treated like shit
not only by Neil but by her evil in-laws as well. She knows where the bodies are buried, and if she talked, Kelly's book will be busting at the seams with dirt.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:18 AM
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50. Looks like I will finally be vindicated.
I have been saying Bush is gay for oh what 2-3 years? I hope the people that slapped me down will apologize...but I am not holding my breath.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:34 AM
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52. Hey! I believed you....
O8)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 11:34 AM
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53. I've always believed in you God_bush_n_cheney
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 12:00 PM by seemslikeadream
and I've been keeping track too!
FBI SOUGHT CLAMP ON BUSH STORIES
"White House and network reporters as well as U.S.-based foreign journalists are using national security leaks to pursue proposed stories about George W. Bush's reputed relationship with a male sex-mate since his college days up to now. So contends the Federal Bureau of Investigation, in a Justice Department request to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act secret court that met in sound-proof facilities in the Justice Department Building, Washington, D.C.

The Bush reputed male sex-mate details have enabled Red China, perceived by some as a sworn enemy of the U.S., and others reportedly to blackmail or otherwise unlawfully compromise the current occupant and resident of the White House, causing the disclosure of U.S. industrial, financial, and military secrets. Various reporters, including those of British Broadcasting Company, BBC, and Canadian Broadcasting Company, CBC, have, on their own, verified and corroborated the exclusive stories by this reporter as to the Bush relationship causing a breach itself by Bush of national security."

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar17.html


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=384851

How About the Washington Times?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=384851&mesg_id=387536&page=

more in post #16

:hi:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:30 PM
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57. I wish Kitty would stay away from dumb stuff like witchcraft
and stick to the nitty gritty. I really couldn't buy her Nancy Reagan-Sinatra tale. Sinatra once called Nancy a dumb broad with fat ankles who couldn't act. I can't believe she'd have been physically appealing to Frank.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 12:52 PM
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58. Thanks to Eloriel for these links, they go nice with Kitty's stuff
Eloriel (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-03-04 09:21 PM
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34. Some links for those of you who are interested in pursuing this


line of thinking:

Fascism Anyone? by Laurence W. Britt
http://secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm

March 16, 2003 by CommonDreams.org
When Democracy Failed: The Warnings of History by Thom Hartmann
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

The NASCAR Nazi
Bush is creating an un-American America
http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/04/38/lost-washburn.php

It's time for another Bush/Nazis thread (Aug. 03)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853#199877

Nazification of America Phase 3
http://www.hermes-press.com/nazification_step3.htm

The Reichstag Fire and 9/11; Pretexts for Dictatorship and the Fourth Reich
Includes: Parallels between the Third Reich and the Bush Regime; 9/11 and the Reichstag Fire; What was the Reichstag Fire; Nazis in America; Poland 1939, Iraq 2003 http://www.oilempire.us/reichstag-fire.html


Bush's 9/11 Reichstag Fire by Harvey Wasserman
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0913-03.htm


20 Comparisons by Barrie Zwicker
http://www.deceptiondollar.com/news/BloorRemarks911-03.htm

The Bush Plan for America: The Rise of an American National Security State
By Jennifer Van Bergen, 14 December 2003 http://www.ftaaimc.org/en/2003/12/3232.shtml

Bush is *not* Hitler!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1868574

What Is Fascism
(This one is quite good and incl. two-tiered legal system as well as many other hallmarks, and Dr. Lawrence Britt's list, and additional links)
http://www.couplescompany.com/FEATURES/Politics/Structure3.htm

Superpower Democracy (another must read)
http://www.greaterdemocracy.org/2003_07_01_gd.html#1058...

America, We Have a Problem
http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i4dodd.htm

They Thought They Were Free
http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free_nn4.html

Fascism and America Today
by Aldo Vidali
http://www.apj.us/20010312fascism.html

===================================================
SYMBOLISM:
You know why Operation "Iron Hammer" sounds Nazi like?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=709776#710186

=========================

FASCISM:
"fas-cism (fbsh'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

The F Scale
(Measures one's authoritarian personality profile, which makes one receptive to fascism, based on research done after WW2)
http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm
link posted here: He's Acting Like Nixon in the Final DaysHas Bush Gone Over the Edge? (has some good links re fascist personality, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1725171

Fascism Anyone? by Laurence W. Britt
http://secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm


Bethune Institute Anti-Fascist Studies
http://bethuneinstitute.org/index2.html

Umberto Eco on Fascism
http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html


What Is Fascism
(This one is quite good and incl. two-tiered legal system as well as many other hallmarks, and Dr. Lawrence Britt's list, and additional links)
http://www.couplescompany.com/FEATURES/Politics/Structure3.htm

Superpower Democracy (another must read)
http://www.greaterdemocracy.org/2003_07_01_gd.html#1058...


IS AMERICA BECOMING FASCIST?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2159330

This article: IS AMERICA BECOMING FASCIST? http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/fascism.htm

========================


MORE:
TARPLEY - Unauthorized Biography
http://www.tarpley.net
http://www.the7thfire.com/bush1.htm

Nazi Hydra in America
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html


Nazi, GOP, big business, Bush Knots
http://www.sunmt.org/bushnazi.html


The Nests of Osama bin Laden
http://www.the-catbird-seat.net/BinLaden.htm

Bruce Campbell Adamson Website
(has a book available: JFK Assassination Timeline)
http://www.ciajfk.com /


Nazi Echo - Consortium News (archived articles)
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/nazi.html


Democracy Unbound
(several articles, see also Encyclopedia)
http://democracyunbound.com/bfeebook.html

=====================

DU Threads (by no means ALL the DU threads that have been on this topic):

Wanna know where today's Fascism came from? Look here 8/29/04
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2282969#2283235

Bush,Machiavelli,StraussIF NO EXTERNAL THREAT EXISTS ONE MUST BE INVENTED
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2255230
Fascism, Nazism, & Eugenics supported by Oil Barons of America &
esp. the Rockefeller Foundation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2248507

It's Time for Another Bush/Nazi Thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853#199887
(most links already harvested)

1944: American fascism (re 1944 article)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=212387

Enough with the "_______ is worse than/ as bad as Hitler"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1730317

How Reagan Got Elected in the first place -- My little tribute
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1773894#1776990
(See Octafish post #33 for links to some books on Amazon)


Is U.S. REALLY like Germany in the 30's? (elementaryPenguin)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1772363#1772645

See also: Is US like Germany of the '30s? (Kayell)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1777406#1780958

Are we on the road to becoming Nazi's?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1784358#

Second Circuit Judge Tells It Like It Is: Bush Is Illegitimate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1833026

re this news story: http://daily.nysun.com/Repository/getmailfiles.asp?Styl...

Comparing Bush to Hitler hurts our credibility
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1873137#1873330

The Fascism is getting harder to hide. And harder to fight.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=750446

"American fascists" among us
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2026031

Joe Stanton: "Bush's Operation Clean Sweep: World War IV in 2004?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=808293

Fascism?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1948137

Way, Way Past Time To Label BushCo As Nazis
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1966911#1967150

I'm crying (Elf sees the warning signs)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1791526#1791609

Is America Becoming Fascist?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2159330

What Would Machiavelli Do? The Big Lie Lives On ...Thom Hartmann
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2276024
==================

And for the naysayers, or those who trot out that tired, inept to start with old canard about "the first one who mentions Hitler in a discussion has lost the argument," I say this: when you're finished reading up, get back to us.

Welcome to the new DUers and congratulations to those who've noticed the frightening similarities on their own.

any broken links check here original thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2305540#2307590
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 01:09 PM
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59. Unfortunately, from the blurb all the W poop sounds like innuendo
"It reveals how Dubya has had a very special friend in the mayor of a Tennessee city, who has has cohabited the Texas ranch many times."

Unless, somebody's got the DNA-stained khakis, this kind of stuff either doesn't raise an eyebrow, or it takes a long ordeal of other circumstantial evidence before it sinks in.

Too bad Dems don't have any official investigative arms left. We could make Clinton's travails look like a parking ticket.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 07:53 PM
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64. Here's a Take from Another Pro Old Gossipteer
*******QUOTE*******

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08302004/gossip/cindy.htm



August 30, 2004 -- ....

THE gossip around: Kitty Kelley's Bush family vivisection gets published right after the convention, when residents return to civilization. It allegedly "has five major revelations." Supposedly, familial indiscretions naming names, places, times, etceteras. Plus W's documented missing year and service record.

********UNQUOTE*******
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 07:33 PM
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63. Maybe the combination of Kitty Kelly's book
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 07:40 PM by TexasBushwhacker
plus Michael Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon" - available for pre-order here:

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/

plus Fahrenheit 9/11 coming out on DVD on 10/5 - available for pre-order here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005JNEI/qid=1094344338/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0576405-0140146?v=glance&s=dvd

Maybe the three of them coming out right before the election will have SOME impact.

On Edit: I forgot Bob Graham's book "Intelligence Matters" is coming out on Sept. 7th too.
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-04 08:57 PM
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65. Links to Kelley book at online booksellers
Edited on Sat Sep-04-04 09:07 PM by Vitruvius
Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/038550324 ...

Barnes & Noble: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry ...

Borders: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/038550324 ...

Powells: http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=62-03855032 ...

Or -- better yet -- go to your local independent bookstore.


P.S: Two links from the publisher (Doubleday): http://www.randomhouse.com/doubleday/catalog/display.pp ...

and http://www.randomhouse.com/doubleday/thefamily /
Note that the second site will be expanded to include a LOT of material when the book is released on Sept 14.


P.P.S: LoZoccolo just pointed out on another thread that Powells has union labor; a good reason to consider Powells if ordering online...

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 01:59 PM
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69. Her publicists will get her on the talk show circuits
which can only be a good thing- these shows reach the sheeple who are in fact susceptible to these kinds of "revelations."

Whether it affects how many people vote is another matter- but any way you look at it, it's not good news for Bush.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 03:01 PM
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 03:05 PM
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71. Where did the "It reveals" lines come from?
Has the publisher or author confirmed that this is in the book?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:03 AM
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87.  MikeG
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 09:07 AM by seemslikeadream
Where did the "It reveals" lines come from?

The first two lines in original post are:

George Bush Will be "Outed" and Dissed by Kitty Kelly in 12 Days
by Arturo1 • Friday September 03, 2004 at 12:51 PM

so obviously it's from Arturo1 and this link
http://colombia.indymedia.org/news/2004/09/16349.php

it also appeared here first

FAMOUS BIOG KITTY KELLEY OUTS BUSH - Just 12 more days till then.
by Samsung Friday, Sep. 03, 2004 at 10:07 AM
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/09/1694318.php

and here
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/4/9202/58426

I'm sorry if anyone was mislead by the post. It is what it is. That's it.

I've heard all the talking points discussed here at DU in the past so none of it was shocking to me.

And if you read

High Plains Grifter
The Life and Crimes of George W. Bush
By JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair08312004.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09012004.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09032004.html
it won't seem so far out
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 06:19 PM
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72. Rumors of slimy sex and sedition???
Bringumon!!! :evilgrin:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-05-04 11:00 PM
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76. High Plains Grifter The Life and Crimes of George W. Bush
By JEFFREY ST. CLAIR

Part One: The Ties That Blind

The mad cowboys are on the loose. Pack only what you can carry. Liberate the animals. Leave the rest behind. The looters are hot on the trail. Only ruin stands in their wake. Not even women and children are safe. Especially not them. Run for the hills and don't look back. Don't ever look back.

So the story goes, anyway.

We find ourselves living out a scene in a bad Western. A movie filmed long after all the old plot lines have been exhausted, the grizzled character actors put out to pasture, the Indians slaughtered and confined to desert prisons, the cattle slotted into stinking feed lots, the scenic montane backdrops pulverized by strip mines. All that remains are the guns, bulked up beyond all comprehension, and the hangman and his gibbet. We've seen it all before. But there's no escape now. Someone's locked the exits. The film rolls on to the bitter end. Cue music: Toby Keith.

Perhaps only the Pasolini of Salo: 120 Days of Sodom could have done this celluloid scenario justice. Or the impish Mel Brooks, who gave us Blazing Saddles (one of the greatest films on the true nature of American politics), if you understand the narrative as comedy, which is probably the most emetic way to embrace it. Both Pasolini and Brooks are masters of scatological cinema. And there's mounds of bullshit to dig through to get at the core of George W. Bush.

Because it's all an act, of course, a put on, a dress game. And not a very convincing one at that. Start from the beginning. George W. Bush wasn't born a cowboy. He entered the world in New Haven, Connecticut, hallowed hamlet of Yale. His bloodlines include two presidents and a US senator. The cowboy act came later, when he was famously re-birthed, with spurs on his boots, tea in his cup and the philosophical tracts of Jesus of Nazareth on his night table. Bush is a pure-blooded WASP, sired by a man who would later become the nation's chief spook, a man frequently called upon to clean up the messes left by apex crooks in his own political party, including his own entanglements (and those of his sons) with the more noirish aspects of life. His grandfather was a US senator and Wall Street lawyer, who shamelessly represented American corporations as they did business with the Nazi death machine. Old Prescott narrowly escaped charges of treason. But those were different times, when trading with the enemy was viewed as, at the very least, unseemly.

more
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair08312004.html
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:05 AM
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81. Bush ordered Anthrax murders !
This is a very serious charge--Kitty always has more than one source on all her allegations, that's why she has never been successfully sued. I hope she has the goods, and I hope the justice dept takes action.

"It reveals the details of embarassing photographs of Bush that actually caused U.S. Govt. agents to perpetrate the anthrax mailings to destroy the building of National Enquirer and kill photo editor Stevens."
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 12:25 AM
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82. Bush is GAY??
Please oh please...don't give me a reason to LIKE him!
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 01:18 AM
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84. A burning question
Those allegations are old stuff for those of us who have been following allegations about the Bushes. Some of them have been documented (e.g., Grandpa Bush and the Nazi connection) and others have not (to my knowledge). How did Kitty and her publisher make it this far without the BFEE pulling out the stops to stop this book dead in its tracks? Just something to consider.
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Longhorn79 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 01:58 AM
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85. What the hell is this accusation?
"It reveals the details of embarassing photographs of Bush that actually caused U.S. Govt. agents to perpetrate the anthrax mailings to destroy the building of National Enquirer and kill photo editor Stevens. "

Wow! She damn well better have her sources lined up straight.
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Longhorn79 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 02:01 AM
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86. "It reveals murders committed by the Bush family"
You forgot to caveat this post by the fact that this was written by somebody without a brain.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 09:05 AM
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88. High Plains Grifter Part Two: Mark His Words
Sex and politics often seem to conflate in George W. Bush's mind. In 1975, young George, fresh out of Harvard Business School, followed his father to China, where he was keen testing the receptiveness of the Chinese to infusions of Texas capital. Soon bored by detailed discussions of international finance, Bush began hitting on his translators and other Chinese women. One Yale coed who came into Bush's orbit recalled: "He was always one of the fastest guys on campus in trying to get his hands in your pants." This friskiness didn't set well with the decorous crowd then running China and he was discreetly directed to evacuate the country in order to save his father, the new ambassador to Peking, further embarrassment.

During the 1988 Republican convention, David Fink, a reporter with the Hartford Courant, asked Bush what he talked about with his father when they weren't jawing about politics. "Pussy," George W. quipped. Take that mom.

In 1992, W. famously offered his services to his father's moribund re-election campaign. The younger Bush counseled the president to hire private investigators to rummage through the bedtrails of Clinton's sex life, hoping to ignite "bimbo eruptions." This advice coming from a man who, according to one of his friends, spent the 1970s "sleeping with every bimbo in West Texas, married or not." George Sr. (who was himself desperately trying to suppress talk of an affair with a State Department employee) demurred, patted Jr. on the head and followed the more tactful advice of Robert Teeter, with fatal results.

George W. vowed not to make the same political miscalculations as his father in his own 1994 run for governor of Texas. With the sepulchural Karl Rove as his political Svengali, Bush set his sights on Ann Richards, the gruff Democrat who ridiculed Bush's sense of privilege, "Little George was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple." It was a campaign marked by unbridled viciousness, backroom slanders and outright lies. Bush didn't attack frontally; he sent surrogates to hurl the mud for him. Naturally, he won in a romp

more
http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09012004.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:15 AM
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89. "Some of the Dubya Dirt from the new Kitty Kelley Book"
09/06/2004 Entry: "Some of the Dubya Dirt from the new Kitty Kelley Book"

George W. Bush took cocaine during a holiday at the US presidential summer retreat Camp David according to an explosive new book... The allegations about Bush's coke-taking come from the president's former sister-in-law, Sharon Bush... She tells Kelley: " The Presdent did coke at Camp David when his father was President... and not just once either... the book also mainains that... a 'great deal of circumstantial evidence' that the president... helped for a pregnant girlfriend to have a termination in the seventies... "Poor Georgie. He couldn't relate to women unless he was loaded"... "He went out of his way to act crude. It's quite amazing that someone you held in such low esteem later became President"... "He had no interests beyond booze and sports"...

Kelley points out that Bush has been evasive about drugs. During his first Presidential campaign, Bush said : "The current FBI form asks the question 'Did somebody use drugs within the last seven years? I will be glad to answer that question and the answer is 'No.'

A former Lt. tells her: "there is circumstantial evidence pointing to substance abuse by Bush during this period."...

From the print version of the Khaleej Times, Sept. 6, 2004

An even more astonishing allegation is that Bush's wife Laura-- who is seen as the most strait-laced First Lady in recent memory was a marijuana dealer in her youth...
http://www.thesyndrome.com/archives/00001081.htm
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 04:28 PM
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91. Unfortunately, it's Kitty Kelley
Before I take it as gospel, I'd like a reliable source.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 07:42 PM
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93. sounds like a load of baseless bullshit
Edited on Mon Sep-06-04 07:43 PM by enki23
and in that way, it's like the endless deluge of funded baseless bullshit i've seen directed, by republican operatives, at every prominent liberal since i was a kid.

so why the #### not. bring on the ####### smears. i want to hear george bush senior say "i never ###### young boys." and i want to see george junior say "i never snorted coke... off another man's crotch.

bring it the #### on. smear the motherfuckers, under oath, under god. cram the #### in their ####### faces till they choke on it. this nation's already been dragged into the ####### gutter by these bastards and their ideological allies. may as well sling some #### while we're down here here.

(so *this* is what it's like to deal with ####### netnanny)
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 12:41 PM
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97. Could we put up "BUSH IS QUEER" signs by the roadside?
This is not illegal in many places. For example, in Harris county (Houston TX) you can put up such signs for 1 week.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:13 PM
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101. "Practicing Witch"?!
Edited on Tue Sep-07-04 11:30 PM by zidzi
What does that mean?

On edit~ I think it means that she is a Major Biaaaaatttcccchhhh!
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