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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 09:37 AM
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Some groups offering gays opportunities for ''recovery''
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=75512&ran=209057

When a friend invited him to a church singles group that met Tuesday nights in Virginia Beach, Brandon Stoy, 23, agreed to come along.

Wednesday through Sunday, he spent his evenings partying at gay clubs. But Mondays and Tuesdays, the bars were closed. So, yes, he was free.

What Stoy didn’t expect was the feature event one night in January: a man and a woman testifying about their “recovery” from homosexuality with the help of Sought Out, a Christian organization in Virginia Beach. Their stories of promiscuity and unhappiness were startlingly close to his own.

“One guy described his soul as a black hole, and I felt just like that! There was this huge void inside of me, just longing for something, someone, anything, to fill the loneliness,” Stoy said.

So, after years of embracing homosexuality, Stoy said, he chose to leave it by enrolling in a 20-week faith-based program that Sought Out says can help people “heal” from sexual compulsions.

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This type of stuff makes me sick. I find these groups are so JUDGEMENTAL that they would put so much GUILT on people who God has made. God does not make junk. People make junk.

And of course I am judging them judging others. I find them as sickening as the sick priest and child beaters, and wife beaters who profess to be 'insert religion here'.
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Soft Georgia Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 09:39 AM
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1. There's only one thing to say about this:
Ignorance kills. If it doesn't kill the ignorant, it kills their objects of "goodwill." If it doesn't kill the body, it kills the spirit.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 09:42 AM
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2. snake oil
there's no cure for homosexuality -- not now or ever.
what there is -- is a continuum of sexuality and if people are in enough pain about there lives -- they may experience some kind of change.
but it is with in natural parameters for the person.
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Soft Georgia Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:24 AM
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6. Unfortunately a lot of poor souls dream of a "cure."
I believe they're mostly those who were brought up in the fundamentalist Christian religion, or those who suffered a dramatic conversion in their teen years.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 09:49 AM
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3. Last night I was watching Bowling for Columbine on Sundance, and
there was a part where the religious fright were speaking about the Marilyn Manson concert coming and the hypocrisy just cracked me up. Here was this guy screaming into a microphone, "we WIL NOT let Marilyn Manson preach his message of hate and violence, WE WILL FIGHT him all the way, he won't get by without a FIGHT." I just thought, how odd, here they are, preaching about violence about a guy who hasn't portrayed one act of violence. I thought, it is christians in this world that are the real propagandist of terrorism. I link them together. Christians are the terrorist of today. There whole premise, their message is about terrorism, if you don't believe, act and do as we do, you are going to burn in hell, or worse, we'll help you die to burn in hell. They are so violent, so misleading, such hypocrites, I just don't want any part of them, I couldn't imagine anyone who would. Our forefathers knew what they were doing when they decided to escape prosecution and make sure there was a seperation of church and state.
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Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 09:58 AM
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4. They can do it...they changed me.
Only kidding! My partner and I have been together for 32 years, both retired now, and really enjoying life. Groups like this just brainwash you into believing something that *just ain't so*...kind of like what the RC church did to me for the first 30 years of my life. But I did recover, so there's still hope for them too.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 10:11 AM
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5. aw, man, I thought they were going to help me recover some files off my
crashed PC.

drat.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-04 12:31 PM
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7. 20 weeks? Shit, I give him 6...he'll be back at the bars.
:grr:
Just like that "exodus" guy ...Paltz? Something like that...
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