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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:01 PM
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Which was worse?
"My only point is that, in retrospect, knowing that some of the documents underneath may have been--were, indeed, forgeries, and knowing that apparently there were concerns swirling around about this, had we known that at the time, we would not have put it in. . . ."

It's about time Dan Rather and CBS fessed up and took responsibility for accepting an unreliable document at face value and portraying it to the country as real. It is a good thing this "misleading" document did not have more far reaching or devastating consequences for this country. I mean, can you imagine what would happen if our President did something like this. Wait once galdarned minute! He did! The above quote is not from a humbled Dan Rather or CBS executive, it is from one Condi Rice talking to the American public on Face the Nation on July 13, 2003.

You guys remember a little document mentioned in the President of the United States (George W. Bush's) speech to the American people on Jan. 28, 2003 in which he said these sixteen little words:

“The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa .”

You remember, the State of the Union address that took us to war by scaring the shit out of the American people. That same document that was proven to be a forgery by Ambassador Joseph Wilson prior to it being used in the SOTU. The same Joseph Wilson who was repaid for his service by having his wife, undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame, outed by "two senior administration officials," in an article by "douchebag for liberty" Robert Novak. The same Valerie Plame whose undercover mission was to seek out and identify real weapons of mass destruction and intercept them before they could be given to terrorist to use against us. The same mission that was compromised and aborted because of the outing; endangering the lives of untold agents, operatives and informants, our country and every citizen in it.

It seems the righteous indignation felt by many (all) conservative commentators for the outrageous conduct of CBS news was not felt for the President when he "mislead" the country. In fact, all of the people who are now calling for Dan Rather's head on a pike are the same ones who made these statements:

“It’s just 16 words, for crying’ out loud. Give the guy a break.”
-Rush Limbaugh. Rush later said the document was "100% correct."

"They also addressed the issue of the yellow cake uranium in Niger, and that of course brings up the old issue of Joe Wilson. In fact, this was a real and credible threat, correct?"
-Sean Hannity in a hard hitting question(?) to Condi Rice July 22, 2004

"Reluctance at the White House to admit a mistake has led Democrats ever closer to saying the president lied the country into war. Even after a belated admission of error last Monday, finger-pointing between Bush administration agencies continued."
-Robert Novak in his story that outed CIA undercover operative Valerie Plame

If only the American public and conservatives had held the President of the United States and his administration to the same standard that they hold Dan Rather and CBS news, this administration could not have gotten away with half the things they have.

When CBS news "misleads" it is embarrassing to Dan Rather, CBS, reporters in general and a portion of the public feels betrayed. When Bush "mislead", our country was plunged into a long term war at the cost of hundreds of billions of dollars, over 1030 American soldier's lives, our standing and reputation in the world, the destabalization of the Middle East and revitalization of terrorists across the globe.

Which one was worse?
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 11:21 PM
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1. You took the words right out of my mouth.
I've been wondering about this for a couple of weeks now. Why all the outrage about an edition of 60 minutes which pointed out that which has already been confirmed via documents of unknown validity?

It seems to me that "the media" would be much more outraged about documents obviously lacking in veracity and validity...documents which were known to be fake but used anyway to lead our nation into war. Documents that any IDIOT could see were fake simply by looking at the dates and comparing them with the tenure of the signature. Documents that required NO expert to call into question.

How odd.

It must be that liberal media bias again.

RC
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:51 PM
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2. Thanks
I wonder if the country will ever be united in it's outrage against bush. I don't think the media will focus it's critical eye on the president again until Kerry wins.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:59 AM
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3. Excellent point.
And this administration has yet to answer for lying to the American people and leading us into an unnecessary war in which over 1000 brave Americans have been killed, as well as tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens. And he still hasn't addressed the perpetrators of 9/11. Dan Rather may have trusted the wrong source on a news story, yet this dominates the news and the headlines. Where are our priorities?!:crazy:
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