"The Left Thinks Legally, The Right Thinks Morally" (read this crap)

[Sputnik]

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20040921.shtml

Why, oh why, did I eat breakfast before reading this one? See if you can count how many things are wrong in his thinking.

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To the Left, legality matters most, while to the Right, legality matters far less than morality. To the Right and to the religious, the law, when it is doing its job, is only a vehicle to morality, never a moral end in itself....

First, the Left, which is largely secular, regards morality not as absolute, but as relative. This inevitably leads to moral confusion, and no one likes to be morally confused. So instead of moral absolutes, the Left holds legal absolutes....

Laws are the Left's vehicles to earthly salvation. Virtually all human problems have a legal solution. Some men harass women? Pass laws banning virtually every flirtatious action a man might engage in vis a vis a woman. Flood legislatures with laws preventing the creation of a "hostile work environment." Whereas the religious world has always worked to teach men how to act toward women, the secular world, lacking these religious values, passes laws to control men.

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Oh, how stupid of me! I mean, we all know that men never need to be controlled in their interactions with women. (vomits, then resumes...)

I've been in church since birth and the main idea that is taught there about male/female relationships is for wives to "subjugate" themselves to their husbands, for husbands to be the "head of their households."

If there is some church out there that teaches men to treat women respectfully, I want to know where it is so I can join.

Reading this crap leaves little wonder as to why conservatives are the jerks they are: Crap in, crap out.

[The Backlash Cometh]

1. There's morality and then there's morality. And there's legal and

then there's legal. What it boils down to is which party is more manipulative than the other. The Democrats adhere to interpretations of the law and morality which can be applied to everyone evenly. The Republicans are ideologues. They use the law and morality to achieve a purpose -- usually, a self-interest purpose. It is a means to an end. If you don't think so, think about how the Republicans have used the law on property rights issues, or how they were quick to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court for help on the Gore v. Bush issue. They went against State's rights to do it.

The Right have a purpose and they'll use any book or stone that will get them what they want.

[enki23]

2. why do you bother? this isn't even vaguely interesting

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[The Backlash Cometh]

5. townhall.com

The armpit of cyber think-tanks.

[Sputnik]

8. Uhm

Know your opposition?

Apologies for posting it. Let the moderators squash it if they think it's inappropriate.

[Warpy]

3. I suppose it's marginally better than "the left is emotional,

and the right is logical." However, it's still just a load of horseshit. Why bother?

[PATRICK]

17. childish logic

that any high school forensic society would rate as mediocre and an immature mask over prejudice. The driving divisiveness behind this boils down to they are bad, we are good- dangerous territory for any minority trying to legitimize their demands to the rest of the human race(and throw "God" in as an unwitting sponsor).

Check results people. Liberalism indeed can be idealistic and soft both at the same time. Only the intransigence of power fanatics and ideologues keeps it from contributing positively to the human condition, which know very well how to exploit the weakness of humanity to achieve dominance. Liberalism simply does not want to dominate. When it does it simply becomes the beast these "moral" people boast of doing better. It is odd how contradictory the simple argument is when moral freedom from (liberal)law is selective anarchy at its hypocritical finest.

The intellectual bankruptcy of the right is exemplified in their neoclassical logic and crude uses of argumentation, no more accurate than their interpretation of the Scripture or the Constitution. The cart is not only before the horse, it is unhitched and mired. It is depressing how they can keep their enthusiasm up nonetheless.

[Tace]

4. Quakers Teach Gender Equality

Also a philosophy of non-violence and social justice (moral absolutes). Cheers

[SlavesandBulldozers]

6. We were a nation of laws.

Now we are a nation of immoral men who define morality.

We have now passed through the transition to fascism. They are not even trying to hide it anymore, indeed it is flaunted,

[The Backlash Cometh]

7. And what is amazing is that jolly ole England learned this lesson

hundreds of years ago. The law must be applied equally to all men AND that law must not be theological in nature since there is no agreement among all religions.

Maybe we should require English History as part of the American education?

[MrBenchley]

9. Here's the right being moral...

"For the third time, environmental advocates have discovered passages in the Bush administration's proposal for regulating mercury pollution from power plants that mirror almost word for word portions of memos written by a law firm representing coal-fired power plants.
The passages state the Environmental Protection Agency is not required to regulate other hazardous toxins emitted by power plants, such as lead and arsenic. Several attorneys general, as well as some environmental groups, have argued that the Clean Air Act compels the EPA to regulate these emissions as well as mercury. "

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2809963

"At the gourmet restaurant Anthony's, near the Galleria in Houston, a chief executive for one of the state's largest nursing home chains passed a $100,000 corporate check to state House Speaker candidate Tom Craddick just days before the 2002 election.
Two years later, in the wake of 32 indictments in connection with corporate donations, both men say they didn't bother to count the zeros, much less look at the check.
The check, from a group of 14 of the nation's largest nursing home companies, was made out to Texans for a Republican Majority, the political action committee at the center of Tuesday's felony indictments.
But the night of Oct. 21, when Craddick and Winkle dined, the topic was limiting lawsuits against nursing homes.
Last year Steve Guillard, the Boston-based chairman of the alliance, said the group sent $100,000 to Texas less than three weeks before the election because its Texas members were interested in the pending legislative debate over limiting the legal liability of companies, including nursing homes."

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/metro/09/23CRADDICK.html

"NEW YORK (UPI) Nearly 17,000 service members medically evacuated from Iraq and Afghanistan are absent from public Pentagon casualty reports commonly cited by newspapers, according to military data reviewed by United Press International. Most don't fit the definition of casualties, according to the Pentagon, but a veterans' advocate said they should all be counted.
The Pentagon has reported 1,019 dead and 7,245 wounded from Iraq.
The military has evacuated 16,765 individual service members from Iraq and Afghanistan for injuries and ailments not directly related to combat, according to the U.S. Transportation Command, which is responsible for the medical evacuations. Most are from Operation Iraqi Freedom.
The Pentagon's public casualty reports, available at www.defenselink.mil, list only service members who died or were wounded in action. The Pentagon's own definition of a war casualty provided to UPI in December describes a casualty as, "Any person who is lost to the organization by having been declared dead, duty status/whereabouts unknown, missing, ill, or injured.""

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000630846

Remember, during the Clinton years right wingers ran around squawking "rule of law" like scalded parrots...hoping to convince the country that a few possible techincalities amounted to some sort of grand pattern of wrongdoing...

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. You're right. They have no regard for this generation nor future

generations. Probably the most immoral group of people that this country has ever seen, but the most formidable because they come together come election time.

[MrBenchley]

11. They're moralizing hypocrites, not moral...

[Sputnik]

12. Bingo!

You nailed it, MrBenchly.

[MrBenchley]

13. Thanks...

[struggle4progress]

14. There's a forum for posting wingnut junk to debunk:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=110

[eridani]

15. I'm about as moralistic as they come

Imperialism is evil, period.

[Xipe Totec]

16. Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Robert Bolt's great play "A Man For All Seasons" presents in simple, unadorned scenes, the dilemma of a man of conscience and serves to remind us of how rare and valuable such men are in every age. Bolt's More argues that a man who will sacrifice his conscience has lost something central to his being:

And in the play's greatest passage, he argues for the centrality of the law, over and against men, in the governance of human affairs, when his family wants him to have the disloyal Rich arrested:

Wife: Arrest him!

More: For what?

Wife: He's dangerous!

Roper: For all we know he's a spy!

Daughter: Father, that man's bad!

More: There's no law against that!

Roper: There is, God's law!

More: Then let God arrest him!

Wife: While you talk he's gone!

More: And go he should, if he were the Devil himself, until he broke the law!

Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down (and you're just the man to do it!), do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

Finally, when he is brought before the Court, More warns those assembled: "It is a long road you have opened for first men will disclaim their hearts and presently they will have no hearts. God help the people whose statesmen walk your road."

http://www.brothersjudd.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/reviews.detail/book_id/680



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