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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:17 PM
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Mike Turner (Newsweek): 'Staying the Course’ Isn’t an Option (must read)
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 07:19 PM by Dudley_DUright
Retired Air Force Col. Mike Turner is a former military planner who served on the U.S. Central Command planning staff for operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm. Before retiring in 1997, he spent four years as a strategic policy planner for the Joint Chiefs of Staff specializing in Middle East/Africa affairs. He is a 1973 graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy and a former fighter pilot and air-rescue helicopter pilot.

One of the great mysteries of this election is the inability of John Kerry to challenge George W. Bush on his national-security credentials and to hold his administration accountable for its monumental failure in Iraq. These two issues remain the soft underbelly of the Bush campaign. That the Kerry campaign hasn't effectively exploited them is disheartening. That he's allowed Bush to actually spin them into strengths is mind-boggling. Since the American people seem to be buying the GOP's reality-TV version of events in Iraq, let's take a hard look at the military realities.

From a purely military standpoint, the war in Iraq is an unmitigated disaster. This administration failed to make even a cursory effort at adequately defining the political end state they sought to achieve by removing Saddam Hussein, making it impossible to precisely define long-term military success. That, in turn, makes it impossible to lay out a rational exit strategy for U.S. troops. Like Vietnam, the military is again being asked to clean up the detritus of a failed foreign policy. We are nose-deep in a protracted insurgency, an occupying Christian power in an oil-rich, Arab country. That country is not now and has never been a single nation. A single, unified, democratic Iraq comprised of Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis is a willfully ignorant illusion at best.

Two thirds of America's combat brigades are now tied down in this war which, under present conditions, is categorically unwinnable. Having alienated virtually every major ally who might help, our troops are simply targets. If Bush is re-elected, there are only two possible outcomes in Iraq:

Four years from now, America will have 5,000 dead servicemen and women and an untold number of dead Iraqis at a cost of about $1 trillion, yet still be no closer to success than we are right now, or
The U.S. will be gone, and we will witness the birth of a violent breeding ground for Shiite terrorists posing a far greater threat to Americans than a contained Saddam.

more...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6091356/site/newsweek/
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:28 PM
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1. Please, everyone MUST read this!
Also, It is a CONSERVATIVE estimate that 5,000 will die in the next four years. If the insurgency keeps growing then in could be just like Vietnam.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:34 PM
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4. I read something that makes perfect sense..
because it says that Iraq is Much Worse than Viet Nam because of the beds of terrorists it is creating..that could create very dangerous situations all over the World!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:28 PM
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2. I said it before, and I'll say it again... the last thing they want in
Iraq is peace and stability. The last thing they (neocons) want in Iraq is true sovereignty. This is a business... and there is no sense in killing the golden goose. Much as engineers continue to modify, reengineer, change, improve, twist, shape, and add things to products in order to promote their own existence, (I say this because I have seen perfect functioning machinery completely revamped for no apparrent reason) certain interests need for there to be mayhem so that they may maintain their need for being.... and for being there.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:06 PM
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5. exactly
For Bushco, chaos=profit. More chaos=more profit.

There was no plan to win the war OR win the peace because extended chaos is the strategic plan.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:32 PM
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3. Maybe if Mike Turner sees this New ad
and sees the debates..he will see that Kerry Is holding them "accountable"!

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0924a.html
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:27 PM
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6. Thanks for the link Zidzi
Good ad by the Kerry campaign.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:00 PM
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7. so why is this Web-only commentary?
why not in the regular Newsweek, where more people would
see it?

Oh, that's right....
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:43 PM
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8. Good point
It did not even notice the "web only" part until you pointed it out. The so called liberal media (SCLM) strikes again.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 08:27 AM
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9. Kick
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 08:27 AM by teryang
NGO - Pentagon dichotomy in rebuilding contracts. The Pentagon is deliberately sabotaging NGO efforts under USAID in order to convert rebuilding slush funds to their own use.

The plan is to fail - enabling proliferation of endless security contract "military" solutions.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 09:27 AM
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10. So, is it time for the UN to divide up Iraq?
If so, the big question is: who gets the oil?

As a Briton, I'm painfully aware that my country's past efforts at the division of countries, with or without United Nations input, have resulted in some of the longest-festering disputes in the world. And those were without huge reserves of the world's most traded commodity at stake.

I'm not convinced Turner's 'loose coalition' would last long either.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 07:18 PM
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11. Kerry should use that FDR quote: "Time to change horses, the one we're on
...is about to drown."""

I guess you could call lemmings steadfast and unwavering in their self-destruction. Plop, plop, plop, plop, "umm...", plop.
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