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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:29 AM
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Empower Arab Americans in the 2004 elections
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 09:45 AM by lovedems
I was watching my local news station last night and they did a story on this and it was very interesting! The Arabs, who the Justice Department has gone after with a passion, are doing a large "get out the vote campaign" for the 2004 election. The numbers they gave on the news last night was between 1.5 million to 5 million new voters. Is the community so sought after by the administration going to help the democrats get the chimp out of office? It sure looks like it!


empower Arab Americans in the 2004 elections

We're monitoring the issues and providing the information you need to cast an informed vote. We're hosting voter rallies and other events around the country and working on the largest get-out-the-vote effort ever organized by our community.

These are extraordinary times and we need your support to sustain our efforts on behalf of Arab Americans and the issues we care about.

Edit: The news said to look for heavy democrat turn-out this November from the Arab community.

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:47 AM
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1. Not sure where you got your facts...
But according to the last census, there's hardly 2 million Arabs in this country. Granted, there are 32 million people of unreported ethnicity, but I doubt that adds an extra 3 million people on top of that figure to reach your 5 million mark (and even that assumes that no arab-american has ever voted before, which is clearly an untrue assumption). I'd estimate that there are, at best 3.5 million arabs americans. Here's the source: http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/DTTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=D&-ds_name=D&-_lang=en&-mt_name=ACS_C2SS_EST_G2000_PCT026">Census bureau


That said, I hope dearly that arab-americans come out and vote. Having worked for and with pro-arab organizations, they are a people who deserve to be heard in this country.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:56 AM
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2. The news anchor was giving estimates between 1.5 and 5 million
Granted, it is our little local news in central Illinois, but those are the numbers they were using. I believe he said "up to 5 million" and that would be the high end.

Thanks for the link to the census bureau.
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sharkbait2 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:11 AM
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3. Arab Americans voted mostly for Nader in 2000?
I asked the question a year ago on another forum I frequent. Some pretty interesting details came up. I don't think this helps much in 2004 though.

http://www.capitolgrilling.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=005787

Are the numbers of Arabs in the US on the decline since September 11?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:19 AM
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4. Absolutely!!
Edited on Thu Jan-22-04 10:20 AM by sirjwtheblack
I know many law abiding arabs that have been kicked out. And many simply have left fearing for their lives in the face of ignorant rednecks who think all arabs are responsible for 9/11.

Edit: As you can see from my sig, I blame Ashcroft. :mad:
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:36 AM
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5. no, they voted more than 95% for Bush
on the basis of Social Conservatism.

They won't make that mistake again
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:19 AM
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6. According to this link, only 28% of them will support * today. . .
Link:
http://www.aaiusa.org/wwatch/washington_watch.htm

(snip)
With the U.S. presidential elections now underway, a new poll shows President George W. Bush losing substantial support among Arab American voters. The poll, conducted in mid-January by Zogby International (ZI) for the Arab American Institute (AAI), surveyed 500 Arab American voters nationwide, and had a margin of error of +/- 4.5 percent.

According to the ZI/AAI poll, if the election were held today, only 28% of Arab Americans would vote to reelect the President. Forty percent, on the hand, would vote for “any Democrat,” while the remaining 32% would either vote for an independent candidate, or are still undecided as to whom they would support for president.
(snip)

:kick:

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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:46 AM
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8. I am willing to bet that number will continue to go down the closer
we get to November. The Patriot Act, Gitmo, the lies to Invade Iraq and now Iran. I think they know this administration is making the region highly volitile and unstable.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 12:43 PM
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9. of course
you really think they'd vote for him after the last 3 years?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 11:38 AM
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7. My absolutely was about declining numbers...
and not Nader support. You're right, they won't make that mistake again and many are firmly in the correct category now.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 02:17 PM
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12. perhaps Islamic Americans?
Maybe the author substituted Arab for Islamic? Just a thought.

And, didn't terrorist-enabler and Bush confidante Grover Norquist brag that the Islamic vote was what 'won' the election for Bush in 2000?
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:20 PM
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13. That last line is true
An Arab colleague has a friend that lives in Florida. The friend, and many others in the community, organized massive get-out-the-vote drives for *. That same friend is convinced that those votes sent * to the WH and has been kicking himself ever since.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 01:22 PM
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10. this is a hot idea

nt
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 02:13 PM
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11. They will vote dem
Count on it. I know for a fact that a large number of Arab-Americans went out in droves in 2000 for *, falsely thinking that with Lieberman on the ticket it would be bad for Arabs here and abroad. How wrong they were. I GUARANTEE you that this mistake will NOT be repeated in '04.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 04:39 PM
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14. bushco probably is ready: arrest them at polls and......
...secret charges

...no info to families


Use data base that 'caught' the Islamic/Arabic flight crews from France.
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