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tpub Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 07:33 PM
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I just want to apologize to all
the very hard-working DUers who have been activists for many, many years because I wasn't out there with you.

I am 32 years old and this is the first time I've ever been involved in a political campaign, aside from sending in money to the DNC.

But I could not be more pissed off at what's been happening. And I finally found some hope recently and I'm running with it.

I want you all to know that if you're too demoralized or just too tired to do the work, then I'm sorry to hear about that. But there are a lot of people out here like me who are getting actively involved for the very first time because they just can't take it anymore.

I took 2000 for granted and I'm sorry. But it will not happen again.

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 07:35 PM
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1. Too soon old, too late smart...
The Amish say. But you aren't too late. Yer' just in time for the fun! ;-)
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 07:35 PM
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2. I'm invigorated
and optimistic!

Let's all fight BushCo right out of the WH!

I'm am also trying to start a local progressive group, in the middle of Republican Hell.

Hope no one vandalizes my car.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 07:37 PM
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3. Please give some advice about how to get involved
I'm sure many of us are ready to drop everything and sign up.
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tpub Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 07:40 PM
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5. advice?
I don't mean to be paranoid, but are you being sarcastic? You've been around here much much longer than I have...
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:03 PM
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7. I'm really not being sarcastic at all
It's difficult to know how to really get involved, especially if you are tied to a full-time job, etc. I've volunteered before, but this time I really think I would drop everything to work full-time. If you have advice I would apppreciate it.
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Pocho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:08 PM
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ACTIVISM IS JUST A LITTLE THING, AND YOU CAN DO IT. HERE'S HOW
Activism is characterized most by what it leaves aside as it effectively strives for power. That is analysis and rhetorical positioning. It is not about what someone thinks, but rather what one does. Activism is usually misconstrued by liberals, who tend to think in grand constructs. They oppose a war, object to world wide globalism, promote conserving the environment, and desire this or that form of government.

Saul Alinski, the master political agitator, tactical planner and social organizer didn't mince words when he wrote "Liberals in their meetings utter bold works; they strut, grimace belligerently, and then issue a weasel-worded statement 'which has tremendous implications, if read between the lines.' They sit calmly, dispassionately, studying the issue; judging both sides; they sit and still sit. ...".

From their debating benches, liberals tend to view activism, of which they are little experienced first hand, in terms of their thinking in large designs. They make the same mistake as do their conservative enemies, whose uninformed grand design tendency causes them to see great sinister 'isms or 'ists secretly guiding the activists.

To the contrary, activists, at least those who instigate organizing for meaningful change, know that the battles are about small goals that immediately affect those involved. They strive for such as neighborhood control of a local head start program in order that their children are educated rather than one run by social workers seeking increased salaries through federal funding. They protest to shut down a particular bank engaged in racially red lining its lending practices. They sit in an office in order to impede education on a campus because a teacher was unjustly fired. They picket to decrease the bottom line of a store with biased hiring practices. They jam and disrupt a city council meeting to prevent passage of a discriminatory ordinance. They purposely anger commuters by snarling rush hour traffic in order that increased pressure be brought on local leaders.

People did not suffer blows marching over the Edmund Petis bridge in order to cause passage of a national right to vote law. They did it to bring normal operation of the small town of Selma, Alabama to a stand still and so force it to locallt register black people to vote. To exactly the same ends but geographically removed, 1000 participants in SNCC and the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party filled the jails of Jackson, Mississippi. They succeeded because local garbage collection was stopped and the city budget drained. That was becuae the trucks had to be used instead for hauling demonstrators who then had to be fed with funds otherwise available for normal operation.

The great social changes that liberals seek take place when enough activists bring a halt to enough sectors of society which are then no longer able to continue operation in their previous modes. Those occur because of the establishment's attempt to maintain power by mollifying and coopting the impetus for continued collective activism. In trying to halt the activism, the establishment is itself changed. And, the liberals, who analyzed, postulated, and talked but did little, gather credit for the emergence of their ideas. That they do is of little concern to the activists, who go on to organize further.

Anyone can be an activist. It is easy. No great social or political insight or analysis is required. To the contrary, such focus it is discouraged, for it only gets in the way. The following simple steps will allow anyone to start a local movement. I have personally used them to initiate formation of effective civil rights, anti-war, and antipoverty groups.
The technique worked every time.

1. Identify about six persons who do not particularly know each other but share somewhat similar views to your own. Note letters to the editor. Start water cooler and/or after church discussions. Make statements in a class, club, or bar, and note responses. Don't discuss tactics, strategies, or solutions. Don't preach. Listen. Focus on individuals with intense feelings but avoid know-it-alls. Try to pick persons of divergent community status in so far as possible. Note how to contact them.

2. Meet separately, privately, and one time only with each of those you've identified. Invite them to your home or visit theirs. Go out to lunch or for drinks together. This time discuss your concerns in depth. Most importantly, listen to their views. Don't bring up organizing for action.

3. Arrange a meeting with the entire group together. Shut up. Let them talk. You will hear your own views presented to you as theirs. Agree with and reinforce those ideas, but don't expand them. Let them enjoy the shared feelings among new found like minded friends. Keep things going until someone besides yourself suggests and the group agrees to meet again. Someone will, and they will. Have a place and time ready.

4. At the next meeting encourage the group to initiate some kind of visible public action that will attract more participants. It should be fun and not risky. Don't try to lead, but just be one of the new movement. Enjoy!

As the group enlarges and engages in actions, it will take directions depending on the inclinations and experience of the members. Be one of them. If they don't go your way, or even if they do, go start another. Then bring them together. Repeat. That's what radical organizing and therefore democracy is all about.

Finally, one more quote from Aliniski, my favorite:

"Agitate + Antagonize + Educate + Organize".


Pocho

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:14 PM
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12. Great post! Must Read!
Thanks.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:34 PM
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14. Some (links) info on how to get involved and 'sign-up'.....
The first two sites are the Democrats (National) and the Democrats (local campaigns)...the other sites listed are "specialty sites" for political activists, look for links to the people in your area...my suggestion is that you sign up to the two Democratic sites, then look at the specialty sites to determine what kind of activism suites you, and get on the emailing lists for political activism....you can find local political activism in your area, and then sign up to help, call them, everybody needs volunteers and some sites are now paid hiring for the campaigns...things will really heat up after the Democratic selection for THE candidate...

some sites grew out of the war protest movement, but are becoming important political movements for a better America...some sites are old time favorites...

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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 07:38 PM
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4. about damned time!
:shrug:
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tpub Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 07:43 PM
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6. hey, for some reason my PS did not get printed
must've been the brackets...

PS-Yes, I posted this somewhere else, but I wanted more people to see it.
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Friar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:05 PM
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8. We don't forgive nobody for nothin' 'round here!
Oh, wait, that's conservatives. Sorry about that. :silly:
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:07 PM
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9. Welcome aboard!!
:hi:
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:07 PM
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10. Thank you.
You younger people are going to have to take up the torch. I myself can't leave the house except for an hour or two in the afternoon as I must look after my ailing husband. I know many of us who used to get involved can't anymore because of reasons beyond our control.

So for those of you who can, thanks again. :loveya:
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tpub Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 09:53 PM
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22. Clete, thanks for your post!
I'm sorry to hear about your husband. Take care!

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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 02:46 AM
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26. Clete, sorry about your husband
Edited on Sat Aug-02-03 02:47 AM by juajen
I know how you feel. I also have a husband with health problems and, I, too, have a disease that restricts my mobility, so can only "activate" from my computer. Sometimes life sucks, but it has made me very familiar with my computer, so, I type a lot. I'm also an artist, so stay pretty busy. As the ones who can go out and organize do their thing, we can continue phone calls and writing letters to newspapers, senators, congressmen, etc. Sure makes me feel that I am helping even if I can't do the door to door stuff.:)
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:08 PM
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11. kudos to you....
fight the good fight....thanks
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:16 PM
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13. Ah, but I was so much older then; I'm younger than that now ~
My Back Pages

Crimson flames tied through my ears
Rollin' high and mighty traps
Pounced with fire on flaming roads
Using ideas as my maps
"We'll meet on edges, soon," said I
Proud 'neath heated brow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth
"Rip down all hate," I screamed
Lies that life is black and white
Spoke from my skull. I dreamed
Romantic facts of musketeers
Foundationed deep, somehow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

Girls' faces formed the forward path
From phony jealousy
To memorizing politics
Of ancient history
Flung down by corpse evangelists
Unthought of, though, somehow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

A self-ordained professor's tongue
Too serious to fool
Spouted out that liberty
Is just equality in school
"Equality," I spoke the word
As if a wedding vow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

In a soldier's stance, I aimed my hand
At the mongrel dogs who teach
Fearing not that I'd become my enemy
In the instant that I preach
My pathway led by confusion boats
Mutiny from stern to bow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.

Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats
Too noble to neglect
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect
Good and bad, I define these terms
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I'm younger than that now.


Words and Music by Bob Dylan
1964 Warner Bros. Inc
Renewed 1992 Special Rider Music

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tpub Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 09:01 PM
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21. nice
I have to say I'm one of those people who can't understand a word he says (sings).
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 08:51 AM
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29. Sure, I got'cha...
I feel the same way about Flush Limbaugh ~

:hi:
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:38 PM
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15. No need to apologize...better now than never
Just roll up your sleeves and get ready for a fight in 2004
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tpub Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:43 PM
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18. it wasn't really that I felt the need to apologize
I just want those activists who are feeling depressed to know that if they really can't deal with this shit anymore, it's OK, there are new people out there who will pick up the pieces and carry on.

I'm ready for a big fight. My gloves are on.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 02:58 AM
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27. Thanks from the bottom of my heart. Bon Voyage!!!
N/T
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tpub Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:40 PM
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16. much has happened here since I've been dallying
in the Lounge, but to those who wish to become activists: check the Activism forum. There are frequent posts there about email activism which is as easy as pie. Then there are letters to the editor, also pretty easy.

Beyond that, find your local Dem. office and tell them you're dying to help out. Or, research and pick a candidate and start telling everyone you know how great they are and how much better than Bush. Or just talk to people about how terrible Bush is and how bad things are now, or how great they could be, if someone else were in charge.

I just started reading a great book: Letters to a Young Activist. It's motivating! Also short, which is good these days...
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:43 PM
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17. You and me both!
I SO regret not doing something, anything, more in 2000 to stop or disrupt the coup...
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:46 PM
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19. Wow!
As a life long, and nearly worn-out and jaded activist, I have to say that it is people like you, as rare as they are, who come along at some point in their life and say, "I can help here. I've got something to say and give."

You made my day, my week, and maybe my month. :hi: You make all the losses, the betrayals and frustration all seem worth it. :toast:
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tpub Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 08:54 PM
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20. David Zephyr, people like you are why I posted this thread
It's not just me, there are many of us. So don't be discouraged. And thank you for all your hard work. You are part of the group that has finally inspired me to action.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 10:58 PM
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23. 69,000 on (Dean's) Meetup!
Edited on Fri Aug-01-03 10:58 PM by w4rma
69,000 on Meetup!

Exactly 69,000 people signed up to Meetup. Call ALL your friends this weekend -- wherever they are in the country -- to invite them to come this next Wednesday to Meetup (and tell them about Dean going up in Texas!).

Posted by Zephyr Teachout at 07:14 PM
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/000905.html
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 01:59 AM
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24. Hear Hear!
Twenty years later that is good to hear! We need more foot soldiers.
:D
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 02:10 AM
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25. Better late then never
:hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 03:01 AM
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28. No need for apologies in my mind
No such thing as arriving too late for the party...c'mon,join the fun...and let's kick some booty :)
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