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POed_Ex_Repub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:48 AM
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Poll question: Have we passed the "golden age" of our country?
Every dominate country has a "golden age", that time period where the economy and territory expands and times are generally good. Rome had it, Greece had it, name your empire it had one of these periods.

They also all eventually collapsed. So, have we already passed our "golden age" or are we just at a blip and our "golden age" is yet to come?

Call it the winter blues, the unemployment blues, or the "I've lived under an idiot's administration for 3 years now" blues, but I'm not feeling all that optimistic at the moment.

I'd be interested in your thoughts, or hey, just cheer me up, I could use some of that too. ;)
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:51 AM
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1. The Golden Age is ending
America cant exploit the rest of the world for much longer.
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:52 AM
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2. I'd love to say something positive
I think it's too soon to say for sure, but.....looking at the deficit......
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POed_Ex_Repub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:04 AM
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4. Did I properly welcome you to DU yet eleonora?
Don't think I have... Okay.. here it is...

:hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi:
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:11 AM
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6. Thank you!
I've been watching for about a year, now is the perfect time to jump in and taste the waters :)
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:09 PM
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15. Hi eleonora!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:02 AM
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3. nothing lasts forever...
Unfortunately I think the baby boom generation is gonna end up having the sweetest deal as far as the right time to live...
Scott
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:04 AM
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5. It will be a slow fall
As the bottom falls out of the middle class. I imagine it wont hit my family for another 2 generations or so. But overall you are probably right.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:11 AM
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7. Depends on what you mean by "golden age".
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 04:16 AM by Cat Atomic
If you mean the ability to project military power with little opposition, then maybe we've seen our peak. If you mean unopposed economic domination of the markets, then maybe.

Socially, I think we're just coming into our own.

Look at France. People would say her golden age is passed, but the average citizen of France lives FAR better now than during France's "glory days".

I have high hopes for this country. I think we'll prosper when our pretend emperors can't play empire anymore.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:14 AM
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8. I may be an incurable optimist
but I believe the ideals of the enlightenment on which our country was founded still have a great future.

If we all work at it, our best times are ahead of us.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 04:31 AM
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9. Yes, but this time is just a point on a continuum....
Fifty or a hundred years from now, the world may finally be united against the worst aspects of nationalism and imperial tendencies, finally recognizing that competitive absolutism is destructive. Something to work toward, anyway, even if we don't live to see it....

Cheers.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:09 AM
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10. Hello!
What gave you the clue?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 06:43 AM
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11. hmmm, golden age?
Edited on Tue Mar-16-04 06:46 AM by xchrom
i'm one of those who believes that our economic strength lies in the fact that we stole the natural resources of this country from someone else. so our economic greatness isn't built by all that hard work every one loves to toot over -- but that we got the raw materials really cheap.
social awareness high points have come in waves -- with the real change being marked by brown v board of ed{not over looking the end of slavery in the 19th cetury, just being more contemporary} and then by the civil rights and free speech movements thereafter.
we are at a period now where economic justice is the battle field -- and that's what the presidency of the chimpmeister is all about.
we can turn this into another golden age but the enemy has put many legions onto the field, i.e. right wing christians, small gov lunatics, and the mac daddy of them all -- corporate facists.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:20 PM
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12. We're an immature society. Our "golden age" is yet to come...IF we make
it happen. Hopefully, we can have leadership that is able to learn from our mistakes and make the U.S. better. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to have happened yet. Our past successes will pale when placed next our future accomplichments....but only if we choose to become a responsible world power rather than the adolescent bully.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:49 PM
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13. we peaked in 1985
and even then it was inertia that got us there.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 03:53 PM
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14. Yes, but this is different from Rome. This time, the whole world will go
down with us.
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