When Will Kerry define himself?

[niceypoo]

Right now Bush is defining him. When will he start speaking about policy instead of letting Bush do it for him? So far his policy talk consists of countering Bushes negative distortions and the distortions seem to be getting far more press. The perception is that he says what he thinks people want to hear. People want to know WTF he plans on doing about things instead of "Bush did this" or "Bush distorted that". Substance man!

[UTUSN]

1. Oh, I Don't Know...

His full life and record would seem to be fairly defining, if anybody cared to look it up.

[niceypoo]

2. look at all the unanswered attacks on his war record

and what about the FUTURE?

[bowens43]

4. What unanswered attacks on his war record?

The only place I have seen attacks on his war record is in freeperville.

[niceypoo]

7. apparently you missed hardball last night

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[Blue_Roses]

15. I didn't miss Hardball

last night and you are going by the assertions and slander of PAT BUCHANAN. For God's sakes, he said Nixon was a much more "honorable" man than Kerry too. I watched the entire smear interview and Kerry was RIGHT to take a stand for what was going on in Nam. Have you ever read, "The Pentagon Papers"?

[Kahuna]

14. Same went for Al Gore.. but..

Go figure.. :shrug:

[bowens43]

3. He is well defined.

Look at his record and listen to his words. Bush isn't defining anyone, he's attempting to smear someone. Big difference.

[niceypoo]

6. you dont get it

People wont go out and "look it up". They go by whats on the news. His record is being defined By bushes attacks and distortions. It doesnt matter what I go out and look up. What I know doesnt affect public opinion. What affects public opinion is what people see on TV.

[bryant69]

11. So in other words

Unless he takes control of the media to get himself presented exactly as he wants to be presented, he's not defending himself?

He's responded, as have many others to all the smears being thrown against him.

One thing you can do, though is to take his words and spread them around--so that at least the people you know see through the smears--just think if we all did that, what an effect it would have.

Bryant
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[DuctapeFatwa]

5. Of course he says what he thinks people want to hear

How do you think he got this far? Kerry is a very shrewd politician.

The campaign is not about substance, the voting class doesn't really care about substance. They want more dead Muslims and they want pretty words. Kerry can deliver both.

[niceypoo]

8. the democrats saying what they think people want to hear..........

brought us Booosh lite. That went over really well at the midterm elections, didnt it?

[DuctapeFatwa]

13. bush's policies are popular, bush himself is becoming less so

Kerry offers the best of both worlds - the reassurance of the status quo, in a more attractive package without the oilysmirk of the chimp.

[bryant69]

9. Oh, do I detect just a hint of bitterness?

Actually I don't think Kerry is going to go into office trying to kill Muslims; I think he is going in to protect Americans. But given your attitude towards Americans perhaps that's not a good goal.

Bryant
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[niceypoo]

10. Kill the messenger

but ignore the message. When Will Kerry begin talking about the future?

[bryant69]

12. He already is

And I think people who aren't deafened by bitterness are hearing him.

Look at the speeches he's given recently; they've been top notch.

[buddy22600]

18. you mean the one where the news made it out

That he was berating a person who was pushing him on naming who the foreign leaders are?

[niceypoo]

20. bitterness?

Making mindless snap judgements about me only weakens your position. I fully support Kerry so I dont understand what your attacks are based on. I am only pointing out the truth. People are beginning to have doubts about kerry. Until we face it it will only worsen. Kerry is largely unknown. I see it in my chatroom and on the street and in the papers. The world at large are NOT well informed DUers. They largely consist of mindless drones who go by whatever they catch a glimpse of on TV or in the papers. As long as kerry does not go on a massive policy offensive and hammer away his positions on such things as the deficit and Iraq, the drooling GOP attack dogs will have the upper hand. The GOP go by a mantra. If a lie is repeated often enough it becomes truth in the minds of the masses. On that note Im off to work! Peace V

[sangh0]

22. You fully support Kerry?

IMO, someone who doesn't even know what the candidate has been saying can not be "fully supporting the candidate". Knowing the candidate is the first step in supporting the candidate. You seem to have skipped that step.

[niceypoo]

24. What other candidate is their to support?

not much choice there given BUSH is the only other candidate.

[DuctapeFatwa]

19. As long as the oilngun boizz get their additional revenue generated

It doesn't really matter what you call it. Protecting Americans from General Dynamics having a disappointing 4th quarter, kick their ass and steal their gas, as long as it's green and the corporations can spend it, that's what counts.


And you do not detect a hint of bitterness. You are apparently confusing me with someone who supported one of the other candidates.

Now you may start to detect a hint of bitterness among the Kerry fans, when they get around to noticing that the US has already started low-grade invasions of Iran, Syria and North Africa, and although sub-Saharan Africa and the Caribbean are staffed with almost all commercials, if Diebold gives Kerry the nod in November, he will inherit a Gaza-style occupation of a good chunk of the planet, in various stages of implementation.

Or maybe not. It's what the voting class wanted, after all.

[Blue_Roses]

17. with all due respect

"They want more dead Muslims and they want pretty words. Kerry can deliver both." Who's side are you on? What a load of crap.:eyes:

[BabsSong]

16. If I were Kerry, I wouldn't "define" crap and keep it that way

So you think Bush is setting the agenda by attacking Kerry??---well, just wait until Kerry puts down on paper specific plans. They will deball him and shove it down his throat even if his plans are the most magnificent plans ever drawn up on planet Earth. They are waiting for this. They want to goad him into it. Then their henchmen, their administration heads, and THEIR media will rip Kerry apart. That puts Kerry on the defensive. He needs to just keep slamming Bush on everything and keep Bush on the defense. He needs to talk about his 'ideas and plans' in outline form and in broad generalities. Don't you understand that they are trying to bait him??--he does.

[BillZBubb]

21. Good post Babs

If Kerry puts out details, they'll focus in on one small aspect of the total package and spin that into being a Kerry call for Socialism and surrender. They've got millions in ad dollars to make it stick.

Kerry needs to continue painting with a broad brush and attacking Shrub at every opportunity. Even then, he'll be far more detailed than any position Shrub ever took.

[niceypoo]

23. So telling the electorate your policy intentions is counter productive?

um......that ones just too goofy a theory to comment on.