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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 06:57 PM
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Help with a response to LTTE please!
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 07:16 PM by Ripley
I'll get right to it. A woman's letter in my paper today:

I've had it with people saying President Bush was appointed. The pregnant chads in Florida were counted six times, and Bush had more votes than Gore every time. (Ref: letter March 17).

The reason the election wound up in the Supreme Court is because Florida's Supreme Court changed the rules extending the legal time for the secretary to announce the winner. Florida's Democrat Supreme Court was hoping they could somehow make enough chads look pregnant that they could win Florida. Everybody knows (or should know) that judges can't make laws. Florida Supreme Court Judges took it upon themselves to try to get away with it.

Gore got a few more popular votes, but our presidents are elected by electoral votes, and it is about time hard-headed Democrats got that through their heads. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Florida Supreme Court could not change a law; it's that simple. The butterfly ballot? A Democrat woman designed it. Al Gore had his lawyers in Florida early the next morning. Pretty fishy to me -- illegals voting, etc. Another thing: They also need to get their head out of the sand and elect Bush again! We need him!



My response so far:

Dear Editor:

It appears that xxxx (whose letter appeared in xxx 4/26/04) must only get her news from Fox News Channel, because how else could she be so grossly misinformed? The real dispute in Florida during the 2000 election was that Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush paid big bucks to Choice Point Inc. to purge the voter rolls. Funny how she was the Chair of the Bush Campaign in Fla and Jeb is Bush, Jr's brother. Funny how the vast majority of the thousands of people denied the right to vote in Fla was because of this purge were black and registered Democrats. Funny how only __________ (help?) were actually ineligible voters.

XXX's statement "Gore got a few more popular votes" is hilarious! 500,000 (help...exact number?) is more than a few.

And just to make sure XXX is fully informed: Is she aware that Bush, Jr's lawyer James Baker (who filed the lawsuit against Gore, not the other way around) is also the lawyer defending the Saudi's names? whom the Families of victims of 9/11 are suing?


I wish I could think of a concise ending to this to refute her "we need him" too.

Thanks for any help folks, I'm no word smith. :)




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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:06 PM
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1. Most of the info you need is here
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:08 PM
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2. Gracias!
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 07:18 PM by Ripley
Appreciate the link...will use. :hi:

That filled one hole in my letter...
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:15 PM
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3. As Bush* has only pretended to want to catch Osama, you might say,
Osama needs him, al Qaeda needs him, the Saudi royals need him, and big international businesses need him, but the regular citizens of the USA do NOT need him as he has done nothing for us.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:19 PM
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5. Fine piece of words.
But that isn't what I'm looking for...
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:19 PM
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4. Also mention
That the study that was done later showed that Gore had more votes IN FLORIDA than the chimp in almost every scenario. Also, the fact that overseas ballots that were either not postmarked or sent after the deadline ended up being counted as well.
As for "needing him", does this idiot think that we don't have enough hostility towards us yet? Maybe they think that the deficit is too small, or that too many people can still feed their familes? maybe this person doesn't think their are enough dead soldiers yet, or that terrorist recruiting needs to be increased?
I dunno.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:23 PM
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6. Yup, she's rich and doesn't care.
But hey, gimme a link to the studies that show Gore won in all scenarios...I'm sure my paper would allow that. Funny, but the editors are normal.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:31 PM
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8. More links.
NORC in Chicago did the media recount study.
http://www.norc.uchicago.edu

Media lies about election results.
http://www.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5111

The media coverup.
http://makethemaccountable.com/coverup/index.htm
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:59 PM
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11. Very hard to sift through.
Thanks for the links, but I'm just asking for someone smarter than me to put it into concise words. Links that take forever to get to the bottom line are not gonna fly in a letter.

Hmmm, I'll try to find the best link and put that in print in the letter.

Thanks.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:29 PM
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7. You can go to the Greg Palast website for figures (nt)
nt
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:49 PM
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9. Thanks Eric, but I was hoping...
DUers big brains could help me with at least a GREAT closing line. I have seen some excellent words written here that I could never compose.

Just looking for a little oomph to rebuttal.

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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:57 PM
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10. Love doing this kind of research. Name of Saudi defended by Baker.
http://www.democrats.com/view2.cfm?id=14289
27-May-03

Saudi Defense Minister Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz is being sued by families of the 9-11 victims for personally approving millions of dollars of Saudi government funding for terrorist front groups. Amazingly, bin Abdul Aziz arranged for his son to be flown from Florida to Kentucky on 9-13 - a flight the Bush administration denies ever happened, on the second day when ALL civilian flights in the US were prohibited. To make matters worse, bin Abdul Aziz and his Saudi co-defendants hired James Baker's law firm to defend him against the TRILLION dollar 9-11 lawsuit. Could this trial expose the deep Saudi connections to Al Qaeda, and the Bush connections to both? Is a Special Prosecutor needed? Is it even possible to investigate the Bush-Saudi-Al Qaeda ties? Stay tuned...
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:02 PM
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12. You freaking ROCK kaitykaity!
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 08:22 PM by Ripley
You are a research pal now! You may help me all the way... :D

Dear Editor:

It appears that xxxx (whose letter appeared in xxx 4/26/04) must only get her news from Fox News Channel, because how else could she be so grossly misinformed? The real dispute in Florida during the 2000 election was that Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush paid big bucks to Choice Point Inc. to purge the voter rolls. Funny how she was the Chair of the Bush Campaign in Fla and Jeb is Bush, Jr's brother. Funny how the vast majority of the thousands of people denied the right to vote in Fla was because of this purge were black and registered Democrats. Funny how only __________ (help?) were actually ineligible voters.

XXX's statement "Gore got a few more popular votes" is hilarious! 500,000 (help...exact number?) is more than a few.

And just to make sure XXX is fully informed: Is she aware that Bush, Jr's lawyer James Baker (who filed the lawsuit against Gore, not the other way around) is also the lawyer defending Saudi Defense Minister Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz whom the Families of victims of 9/11 are suing?


I wish I could think of a concise ending to this to refute her "we need him" too.

Thanks for any help folks, I'm no word smith.


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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:10 PM
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13. Well, thank you very much. Here's the vote totals--
Gore 50,999,897 48.38%
Bush 50,456,002 47.87%

diff 543,895
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:20 PM
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14. Dif is more than a few.
Edited on Fri Mar-26-04 08:24 PM by Ripley
Thank you again.


XXX's statement "Gore got a few more popular votes" is hilarious! 543,895 is more than a few.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:35 PM
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15. Here's the last piece.
Felon Purge Sacrificed Innocent Voters
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/headlines01/0527-03.htm

"no one has been able to say with any certainty just how many legitimate Florida voters like Mayville were turned away from the polls."


Botched Name Purge Denied Some the Right to Vote
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A99749-2001May30?language=printer

"The effort was so riddled with errors that a more precise tally will probably never be possible. But it is clear that at least 2,000 felons whose voting rights had been automatically restored in other states were kept off the rolls and, in many cases, denied the right to vote."


Google search.
http://www.google.com/search?q=voter+purge+%22florida%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N

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