Sad picture from NY Times

[Emboldened Chimp]

Caption: An American marine carried the body of a comrade killed in the battle in Ramadi.

[ewagner]

1. Sad, sad picture......

but it does occur to me that if the NYT is showing a picture so emotionally wrenching, the tide may be turning.

[trumad]

3. A fucking Garbage Bag

what a fucking shame....

[djeseru]

2. truthout.org

...had a couple more to go with this one. You're right - this is incredibly sad. He should have never had to go there in the first place...

[Tempest]

4. Even sadder pictures

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8CB7C17E-F69E-48A2-8034-DEA425192815.htm

These children didn't sign up to fight like the soldier in the picture above.

[qanda]

8. You are so right!

I looked through those pictures and I wondered if we are even yet. I mean those babies were not involved in the killing-- why do they have to pay? When is enough going to be enough? This is so ridiculous.

[Virginian]

12. "...are even yet?" Even for what?

We didn't go there to get even. There is nothing for us to get even about.

We went to topple Saddam. It is all about Dubya's ego.
If Dubya was attempting to get even for the plot to kill his father, don't you think killing Saddam's two sons and removing Saddam from power to prison accomplished that?

The US should never have started this war. It is indeed Dubya's Viet Nam. We may have won the war, but can we ever win the peace?

[qanda]

17. I was talking about in Fallujah

Even for the four "contractors" who were killed.

[revcarol]

20. Get even for the mercenaries?

Are we allowed to cry over their deaths as PEOPLE AND not SEEK REVENGE?

[qanda]

22. Oh boy...

How many times in one thread can my comments be taken out of context? Newsflash: I was not calling for getting even-- I actually think it's terrible. I was speaking to the fact that the mentality of our government/military is to get even for the "contractors" murders.

[Virginian]

26. It's me.

I've been taking everyone the wrong way today.

Must be the neutron mind-reading beam aimed at my head by the thought police in Ashcroft's office. It just seems to be making me misintrepret everyone.

[LynzM]

9. God, those pictures make me sick

It makes me so sad that this is going on in the world, and that we are the ones perpetuating it...

[Virginian]

10. That was a cruel insinuation.

That soldier didn't sign up to kill children, he signed up to defend his country or to feed his family. He probably had children at home who will now have to grow up without their Dad.
If he was a Guardsman, he probably never expected to be called up for overseas action, but rather to quell riots or assist with flood relief.

You have it wrong, Tempest. That soldier is not the villain.

Bush's war is the villain, it sent him there. We must get those chicken hawks out of power or there will be more wars and more dead children.

[Guaranteed]

11. BUSH is the villain.

Yes.

Those soldiers are to be pityed, not villified.

[Tempest]

13. Try not to put words in my mouth next time

You owe me an apology.

[Virginian]

14. "These children didn't sign up to fight like the soldier in the " implies

the soldier did sign up to fight.
No apology given for that comment on your statement.

Your subsequent post implies you did not mean it that way. Apology given for taking it that way.

(edited to correct misquote)

[Tempest]

16. Don't be naive

Why do soldiers sign up for the military?

For the benefits?

Please.

[struggle4progress]

18. Of course many signed up knowing they could go to war...

to protect US interests, which might efforts to prevent chaos in certain hot-spots. In that case, we should have enough respect for them to avoid frivolous use. :-(
<edit: deleted extra negative>

[Virginian]

23. Unfortunately,

these guys who thought they might have to fight for US interests didn't expect to have to fight for BFEE interests instead.

Remember the first deaths? Most of the parents were saying "he died fighting for his country..." but one father blamed Bush for sending his son to fight an unnecessary war. We didn't see him on TV again.

[democracyindanger]

25. Yes

I'm sure people like Kos signed up to fight and die for an unworthy cause, despite what he says. :eyes:

[Virginian]

15. Duplicate

[corporatewhore]

21. my father signed up knowing he might die and willingly put himself

in the line of danger all those kids do was exist in an oil rich country

[Renew Deal]

5. That was Page 4-5 of the NY Daily News today.

[Lindsey]

7. WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These pictures are heart wrenching.

[patriotvoice]

6. Things to Come

Endless distractions are yours for the buying
It's easy for you if you're not the one dying
This life we are given must be good for something
Listen to me I say "War Changes Nothing!"

Endless destruction, I'm sick of the waiting
for humans to realize, enough of the hating!
This moment in time, a drop in the ocean,
with all of history, set into motion.

--Informatik

[dfong63]

19. that could be you or your son,

or your neighbor or your neighbor's son, in that garbage bag.

[SmileyBoy]

24. My God, it's a Hefty bag.

They put the poor man's body in a garbage bag...

:(:(:(