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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:28 PM
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:31 PM
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1. A headline we thought we'd never see...
Shit's out about a year late but it's out... Let's all thank the 9/11 Widows...
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:40 PM
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5. You are absolutely right. They are courageous women.
Our entire nation owes them a huge debt.

May they soon have their answers, and may there be huge changes in our "security" system as a result.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:33 PM
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2. Maybe the Plame indictments will be announced soon
Wilson's book comes out on the 30th:evilgrin:
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:37 PM
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3. Unraveling fast
Better go on vacation, :hurts:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:39 PM
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4. And this is with $40 million in Bush ad spending.
Keep on' spending. Wilson's book will be out soon.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:49 PM
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9. So will Bob Woodward's. White House is said to be
very nervous about it.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:44 PM
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6. Woo-hoo!
It's happening, we're winning, we need to feel good about this! It's up to us to spread the word, because it WILL be downplayed by the whore press.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:51 PM
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10. DON'T GET COMPLACENT, THOUGH!
Too much is at stake.

CRITICALLY IMPORTANT DATA TO BOOKMARK OR KEEP IN SOME WAY OR OTHER:

Please note, here, The World's Greatest Lists of Media Contacts - not one but TWO of 'em - in the following thread:

LINK:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1380003
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gonefishing Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:46 PM
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7. Here's the thing...
All the Conservatives are saying everyone is at fault an theres plenty of blame to go around. I basically agree with them. The Monday morning argument doesn't fly with me.

However, to me placing blame is no the point. It's the hypocrisy that drives me nuts. Within the first 6 months after 9 11 they tried to blame Clinton also the BFEE has been taking credit as being the great protectors. They can't have it both ways.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:43 PM
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15. BushCo needs to tell us WHAT they did to stop it
Rice says they tasked the FBI. Gorelick on the commission says the FBI didn't know anything about it. Norman Minetta, DOT, wasn't told. Head of FAA was not told.

SO, they knew, and WHAT did they do about it. If, as it seems, they didn't take even the most obvious actions to thwart a hijacking, such as alerting FAA, then one has to ask WHY they would not. And the answer to WHY is that they wanted something to happen. They needed the impetus to enact their agenda in the ME.
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:49 PM
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8. I heard on NPR (I think) yesterday
the results of some poll that had Kerry at 44, Bush at 43, and Nader at 6. That leaves 7% undecided.

Nader at 6%??????? Give me a break. If he has 2%, he's cheating.
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Count Dracula Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:52 PM
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11. Thank God that came out...
but the timing...it's Easter weekend. How many people are paying attention?

I hope the news media talks about this all next week...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:54 PM
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12. More evidence that the tide is turning, Pete...
From the Newsweek Poll... check out the 36% Dissatisfied number. That's practically the same as a "Re-Elect" number, or a "Are you better off now than you were four years ago" number. I think the truth is in that number, and that number alone.

In a new Newsweek poll, Kerry moves ahead of George Bush as Americans grown increasingly concerned about the war in Iraq

Meanwhile, just 36 percent of those polled say they are satisfied with "the way things are going in this country." More than half (59 percent) say they are dissatisfied. And while President George W. Bush’s job approval rating remains steady at 49 percent, where it has been since the end of January, the president's favorability ratings are lower than they’ve ever been. Forty-eight percent of those polled view Bush favorably, down four points over last month. Kerry’s ratings remain unchanged at 51 percent favorable.
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:33 PM
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13. It'll be Kerry by a landslide......
....not because Kerry's worth a damn, but because little george will implode.

.....and after a few months of a KerryBushLite administration we'll all be lamenting the fact we passed on some real Democrats to favor the one we thought was "electable".
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:16 PM
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17. Only Kucinich was to Kerry's left.
But, even by their lifetime liberal ratings, Kerry was left of Kucinich. So....why are you calling Kerry Bushlite?

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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:24 PM
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19. Give the Kerry-bashing a rest already
I would have picked Dean (ex-governor) and Clark (ex-general) as the "electable" ones. Kerry seemed like a longshot, a divorced senator with a vulnerable (and very liberal) voting record. Yet somehow, he's been handed the mantle of "electability" along with "bush-lite".

President Kerry is going to be a damn fine president. My greatest fear is that he'll take an open-top convertible ride through Dallas.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:38 PM
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14. We need to see the JULY briefing
I want to see the memo that sent them all scurrying off to the hinterlands.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

During the spring as initial policy debtes in the Administration begain, I e-mailed Condi Rice and NSDC STaff colleagues that al Queda was trying to kill Americans, to have hundreds of dead in the streets of America. During the first week in July I convened the CSG and asked each agency to consider itself on full alert. I asked the CSG agencies to cancel summer vacations and official travel for the counterterrorism response staffs. Each agency should report anything unusual, even if a sparrow should fall from a tree. I asked FBI to send another warning to the 18,000 police departments, State to alert the embassies, and the Defense Department to go to Threat Condition Delta. The Navy moved ships out of Bahrain.

- Richard Clarke, Against All Enemies, p. 236

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The Secrets of September 11

April 30 (2003) — Even as White House political aides plot a 2004 campaign plan designed to capitalize on the emotions and issues raised by the September 11 terror attacks, administration officials are waging a behind-the-scenes battle to restrict public disclosure of key events relating to the attacks.

<snip>

Some sources who have read the still-secret congressional report say some sections would not play quite so neatly into White House plans. One portion deals extensively with the stream of U.S. intelligence-agency reports in the summer of 2001 suggesting that Al Qaeda was planning an upcoming attack against the United States—and implicitly raises questions about how Bush and his top aides responded. One such CIA briefing, in July 2001, was particularly chilling and prophetic. It predicted that Osama bin Laden was about to launch a terrorist strike “in the coming weeks,” the congressional investigators found. The intelligence briefing went on to say: “The attack will be spectacular and designed to inflict mass casualties against U.S. facilities or interests. Attack preparations have been made. Attack will occur with little or no warning.”

The substance of that intelligence report was first disclosed at a public hearing last September by staff director Hill. But at the last minute, Hill was blocked from saying precisely who within the Bush White House got the briefing when CIA director Tenet classified the names of the recipients. (One source says the recipients of the briefing included Bush himself.) As a result, Hill was only able to say the briefing was given to “senior government officials.”

www.msnbc.com/news/907379.asp?0cv=KA01

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Summer Spinning
Aug 29, 2001

<snip>

The White House had announced that Bush would stay at his 1,600-acre ranch in Crawford from Aug. 4 through Labor Day on Sept. 3, a 31-day stretch that would have broken a modern record for a presidential vacation, held by Richard M. Nixon for a 30-day trip to San Clemente, Calif., in 1969. News reports played up the record, and a Gallup Poll found that 55 percent of respondents thought Bush's vacation was too long.

www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A15957-2001

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A Working Vacation
Aug. 15, 2001

Vice President Dick Cheney took time off from his month-long working vacation Monday to outline his plans for August in Jackson Hole and to reflect on "an amazing year."

Cheney, who will live at his Teton Pines home about six miles west of Jackson until Labor Day, defended his energy policy, supported a local decision to limit drilling around the Gros Ventre Wilderness, recalled a life of service in Washington and said his health problems are not affecting his ability to fish for trout on his favorite Western waters.

www.jacksonholenews.com/Archives/NewsArchive/2001/010815-News.html

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Ashcroft Flying High
WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001

(CBS) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml

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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:10 PM
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16. VERY good point!!
We've been told that Tenet briefed *Bush every day (or was that oral and without any record of what was said?)

We've also heard that Tenet's hair was on fire about the threat. And unlike Clarke, Tenet had direct access to *Bush at the daily meetings. So presumably *Bush was hearing terrifying info EVERY DAY, all summer long.

The fact that they released this single PDB, damning though it is, makes me wonder what is in the PDBs they aren't releasing. There's still WAY too much secrecy (one of John Dean's oft-repeated points).

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:17 PM
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18. Indeed, Stef.
On top of it, as usual.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:27 PM
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20. blm, have we met?
Do I know you from somewhere else? It's the way you spell my name...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 12:28 PM
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21. No....not that I know.
I also abbreviate Stephanopolous the same way - plain old laziness at the keyboard. ;)
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