BUSH FOUND THAT WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION

[sce56]

He looked in the mirror

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found @ http://photomatt.net/archives/2004/04/07/mosaic/

[pnorman]

1. Here's one comment on that webpage:

"Might be worth mentioning, that all of the pictures must be on there two or three times (There are 31 across by 47 down which means 1457 pictures.) I believe there have “only” been around 500-600 soldiers that have died. It’s still a moving image, though"

I caught the same "overcount" the other day when I first saw that mosaic (on DU?). That doesn't detract from the significance of the mosaic components, but it should be mentioned when passing it on, lest a "stickler for accuracy" Freeper (an oxymoron if ever there was) try to dismiss it as a "fraud". Also: clicking on the individual element will display a clearly recognizable photo.

pnorman

[Wickerman]

2. That is a silly criticism

I don't know of any source saying its intent is to only use each image once or is it even implied that the artist attempted have us believe so.

If any "freeper" would ever comment on the fraud I'd have to tell them they got nothing, and obviously care more about politics and the smearing of their poster boy for the criminal Republican party than they do for the lives of their fellow Americans.

[pnorman]

7. It was an observation rather than a "criticism"

When responding to ANYONE ... Freeper or anyone else ... I stay to the subject at hand, rather than widening the discourse. I stop people dead when they try that on me.

That mosaic is an arresting poster and I've already saved it in high resolution for redistribution. But it's symbolic rather than "hard proof of war crimes", and I'd rather keep it on that basis. Had the entire mosaic been composed of endless repetition of a few faces, it would have been BOGUS; but as it is, it's intellectually honest. Relax.

pnorman

[Avalux]

8. synmbolic...yes, but

doesn't really matter what the count is...even one soldier that died for this bullshit war is one too many. An endless repitition of a few faces would not have been bogus because the war was WRONG.

[pnorman]

13. We're reading off the same page.

But I'm also carrying this same battle onto my union's BBS as well as a few related listserves. There are more than a few knee-jerk jingoists who are probably hearing such things for the first time; rather than "filtered" through Coulter and Limbag. Some are former shipmates and/or friends ... ALL are my union brothers and sisters. I treat them with occasional impatience/frustration, but NEVER contempt.

Yes, in my opinion, creating such a mosaic by photoshopping a few faces endlessly, WOULD be bogus (or at least intellectually dishonest) ... in the same manner that that 'tight shot' of Saddam's statue-toppling scene was, or those photoshopped crowds of "joyous Iraqi citizens" cited elsewhere on DU.

pnorman

[rustydog]

3. Casualties can also be the wounded.

There are over 22 thousand wounded Americans...
More than enoughfor the mosaic.

death isn't the only tragedy in iraq, it is lost eyes, limbs and organs solely for Bush*s lie.

[TNOE]

4. 792 Dead Soldiers

as of 4/14 - interesting no updates for a day and a half - so far. I would not be at all surprised if the real # of dead soldiers is well over 1,500.

[Elbowroom]

5. i cant view the picture( corp probably blocking the site) ,but

I am thinking it is th epic of Bush made of pics of the fallen soldiers.


read this:

On 'War President'

Given this image's inflammatory nature, I posted it with a great deal of trepidation. I had a hard time deciding if it was the right thing to do and I am still not sure. No, I didn't have the consent of the families of those pictured, and I apologize for any additional pain that this image causes them. That said, I must say that it is my belief that one distinguishing characteristic between art and other forms of speech is that art takes risks, and if we, as a society, value art we must allow it more leeway than other modes of expression to incite or offend.

'War President' is meant to be a satirical commentary, informed by the whole project of using the dead as political props. I'm not making a dime off the image, and never will attempt to do so. Given this lack of financial or other crass motives, other recent instances of the politicization of the dead strike me as more morally questionable: the coffins of the victims of 9/11 showing up in a political advertisement, the continued suppression of images of the funerals of those lost in Iraq from the mainstream American media, and images of the 9/11 disaster in a campaign ad. A certain party stands to benefit greatly from all three of those instances of politicization.

I'd also like to point out that 'War President' is an image. It is not a textual statement or rhetorical argument. An image is like an empty room and any message that one reads in that room necessarily came in the baggage one carried when one walked in the door. If I made a mosaic of George Washington composed of images of the American dead from the revolution, would viewers likely take that image as an indictment of Washington? I submit that they would not. It would be viewed as a monument to the dead and a celebration of a great leader, a somewhat maudlin monument maybe but surely not offensive. The fact that 'War President' is not viewed such a manner is not due to any intrinsic property of 'War President' but lies somewhere else.

I'm getting a lot of requests about usage rights etc. Use 'War President' however you want, but don't use it for monetary benefit, and please don't
alter or modify it.
# posted by Joe @ 9:08 AM

[sce56]

6. Blocking

Email the link to your home mail so you can view it it is very moving!

[Elbowroom]

9. no no

I know the picture. I sent it out to many people. I was just saying that I couldn't see it at that moment because corp blocked it. I just wanted to inform others about the details.

[Elbowroom]

10. did you see this one?

[Elbowroom]

11. this one?

see next..........me drunk



count down waS GOOD 2NITE

[Elbowroom]

12. this one?

[pnorman]

14. Yeah, I got that one also!

I don't recall the URL, but I stashed it away on my HD. It's 19.2 MB zipped. There too, clicking on a single pixel shows a fairly clear image (crotch-shots; many of them).

Incidentally, I had mentioned earlier in this thread about being active in my union's BBS. There, the top officialdom HATE me for my unrelenting criticism, and would dearly love to toss me off that BBS. Fairly recently, I had posted the below websites to "lighten things up":
http://www.amateurgourmet.com/the_amateur_gourmet/2004/02/janet_jackson_b.html

http://www2.prestel.co.uk/camps/pages/adult_2.htm

In short order, I received an email from Union HQ, piously waggling their finger at my "introduction of obscenity" onto that BBS, and with an implied warning. KEERIST!!! ... that's a union of seafaring officers; engineers and mates ... degenerate scum of the earth, in earlier decades. I (and some of my friends) are still chuckling.

pnorman