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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 05:19 PM
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Jihad....
As 2000 lb. bombs are dropped on Fallujah...

As our troops sit on the door of Najaf...

As Bush embraces the Sharon position on settlements...

It seems to me we are closer to a regional if not world-wide Jihad than ever in our history.

Questions are:

1.) What exactly are the mechanisms for declaring Jihad - how quickly could it be upon us?

2.) Could we win a Jihad without committing genocide in one form or another?

3.) WHO WANTS JIHAD IN THE FIRST PLACE?

I ask the last question because Rush Limbaugh, the unofficial spokesperson for this administration's extremist views, has declared on many, many, occasions, referring to the Middle East situation, that: "The only way to achieve peace is victory." Could the NeoCons actually want an all out conflagration?

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 05:20 PM
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1. I would not put it past them. All except for the Saudis, of course.
* might need another loan after he gets out of the White House.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 05:25 PM
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2. YES

read their position papers. I don't think they want genocide, but
it's clear they want a war with US/Israel v. the Arab world...
followed by an American occupation of the entire region.

PNAC = Likud.

Most of the founders of the PNAC "movement" are Jews and closely
linked to the Likud party.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 05:38 PM
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3. Any Islamic experts in the house?? If so, could you take a crack...
at question #1??
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kera Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 05:40 PM
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4. has this baf of s*
said whose victory?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 05:50 PM
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5. Read it and weep...
The only way some form of quiet will ever exist in the Middle East is if Israel is given the latitude to totally defeat its declared enemies. Only then will the terrorist attacks on Israel's civilians come to an end. Perpetual negotiations, diplomatic half measures, or land for peace deals will not bring peace to the Middle East. For those who believe this is an irresponsible notion, I use history as my guide.

Today marks the 60th anniversary of Imperial Japan's unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor, in which 2,500 Americans were killed. There are lessons to be learned from our victory in that war.

In his April 16, 1945 address before a Joint Session of Congress, President Harry Truman stated: So there can be no possible misunderstanding, both Germany and Japan can be certain, beyond any shadow of doubt, that America will continue the fight for freedom until no vestige of resistance remains. We are deeply conscious of the fact that much hard fighting is still ahead of us. Having to pay such a heavy price to make complete victory certain, America will never become a party to any plan for partial victory. To settle for merely another temporary respite would surely jeopardize the future security of the world. Our demand has been, and it remains, unconditional surrender.

On August 6, 1945, just 16-hours after the United States dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan, Truman issued a statement which said, in part: The Japanese began the war from the air at Pearl Harbor. They have been repaid many fold. … We are now prepared to obliterate more rapidly and completely every productive enterprise the Japanese have above ground in any city. We shall destroy their docks, their factories, and their communications. Let there be no mistake: we shall completely destroy Japan's power to make war.


Unfortunately, there's more...


http://www.radioleft.com/mod.php?mod=forum&op=threadview&topicid=28&forumid=8
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 01:14 PM
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7. There are lessons to be learned from Pearl Harbor, but...
...I'm not sure they're the same lessons proposed by the writer.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 01:11 PM
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6. Sharon just threw another log on the fire....
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damnyankee Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 02:11 PM
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8. Just what does the U.S. Constitution say about ...
declaring Jihad? What about raising a Crusade?

Forget the war-declaration language -- that's a dead letter.

You know, looking through my copy of the Constitution, I can find no reference to 'Jihad.' I guess I'll have to wait for the Bushistas' new-and-improved edition of the Constitution.
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