Freepers in favor of repealing 26th amendment, raising voting age to 21

[pstokely]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1119298/posts

[bluestateguy]

1. Fine

Then they should not be subject to the draft or draft registration.

[bobbieinok]

2. for those like me who weren't sure - 26 dropped voting age from 21 to 18

[brainshrub]

3. No surprise here

Democracy is an ugly word to a conservative.

[LostInAnomie]

4. I had that argument on another board I chat on

I swear the cons are scared shitless that the 18-20 year old vote is going to turn out this year and toss Bush on his ass. They know a lot of true cons aren't motivated to turn out for Bush* so they want to take away a traditionally liberal demographic's rights to make their neo-con votes count for more.

Someone else's rights are easy to take away.

[dsc]

9. they actually are a typically fair weather demographic

They voted huge for Reagan in 80 and 84 and huge for Clinton in 92 and 96. Other than 2000, and I am unsure of that race, the 18 to 21 vote has never made an impact in the presidential race.

[Arkana]

15. It's entirely possible.

A recent poll among college students:

John Kerry 48%
George W. Bush 38%
Ralph Nader 5%

It is DEFINITELY possible that the age bracket they want to eliminate could put us over the top.

[xray s]

5. Freeper want to go back to the good old days

When you had to be a rich white landowner to vote.

Gotta put the women, colored people and liberal college kids in their place!

[DBoon]

6. So when a Liberal Democrat becomes popular...

.. with a particular demographic, revoke that group's franchise.

That way you ensure your guy will always win!

As a disheartened and cynical Bertolt Brecht said about the early DDR:

"The people have failed us. It is time to elect a new people."

[bobbieinok]

13. I think he was making fun of the govt of the DDR - the people had not

reacted/done something the govt wanted

Brecht played on the 'outmoded' idea that people vote for a govt

the DDR govt was permanent so Brecht had the govt say your quote

[DBoon]

14. Exactly!

If the government doesn't like what the people want, then the government should elect a new people.

If voters don't support Bush, then its necessary to change the voting population so they do.

[mmonk]

7. Yeah

18 year olds should only be allowed to drive or engage in combat. No drinking or voting and abstinence is required.

[LoZoccolo]

8. Bwahahahaha.

I wonder how many of them belong to the Constitution Party!

[rockymountaindem]

10. A quote from that thread....

"It's not that they vote Democratic. It's that they contribute juvenile banter like this to the political process."

Yeah, and Coulter, Limbaugh and Hannity are all soooooo sophisticated.

[strategery blunder]

11. Fine. I'll trade.

The freepers can postpone my right to vote by three years if and only if they agree to a draft with an exemption for Kerry supporters.

[madrchsod]

12. freeper`s are basically morans

there`s more intelligent arguments or postings on several white power websites i read.

[MI Cherie]

16. Wouldn't that eliminate a lot of them?

They often sound so childish and immature. (Not to mention the poor spelling and grammar ...)

[Piperay]

23. I would think so

from the way they phrase things they sound like they are still in elementary school.

[MAlibdem]

17. Fine...

but when I get arrested for destroying their property (houses, cars, etc) I want to be charged as a juvenile...clearly, if I don't have the maturity to choose a leader, I don't have the maturity to see right from wrong...wait, is that 18-21 y/o's or the Right?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

18. Eh that's going in the wrong direction on the wrong issue

I say keep the voting age at 18 and lower the drinking age to 18. You can vote at 18, you can die in a war at 18, you should be able to have a frigging beer at 18, too.

Damn stupid hypocritical law.

[Democat]

19. They really want voting eliminated totally, this is just a first step

They support turning America into a dictatorship, as long as Michael Savage can be their dictator.

[ngGale]

20. That's just great then they can die in a war without...

voting for it. Vietnam--couldn't vote until age 21. Sure would be a sign of a coming draft. These kids need some insight into reality.

[DulceDecorum]

21. Yet they send 17 year olds off to war

and REFUSE to sign the Convention on the Rights of the Child
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/k2crc.htm
because the Pentagon needs US children to die in battle
http://www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/0/51f11ba07950c8ffc125687000326470?OpenDocument
alongside those of whichever nation whose populace they are sent to slaughter.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/122200-02.htm

Lets just face it, Freepers just hate other people's kids.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/16/1073878008032.html?from=storyrhs

[ngGale]

22. You are right and I'm afraid for our children...

and for all the children of the world. Does anyone even care or is it just all for greed.

[ComerPerro]

24. Meanwhile, FReepers love Bush because he is a "badass"

I mean, come on, give me a fucking break.

There is really no reason to like Bush. There is nothing admirable about the man. He is stupid, he sounds unnatural when he tries to speak, whenever he strays from the rehearsed conversation and has to ad lib he makes a complete ass of himself, and watching him and knowing that he is our president is outright horrific.

Add to that his wreckless and dangerous behavior that started in college and lasted until he was 45, and you really have just a complete loser on your hands.

So why do they like Bush? Because they think he is a tough guy.

Now who is a juvenile?

Perhaps, if the best the reich wing can come up with is Bush, then maybe they should be the ones who aren't mature enough to handle the responsibility of voting in a major election.

For example:

You make a good point; if we are required to serve, we ought to have the right to vote. On the other hand, most 18-year-olds these days do NOT appear to be capable of making adult decisions.


16 posted on 04/16/2004 10:55:40 PM PDT by MegaSilver

Hey MegaSilver: YOU ARE 19, YOU FUCKING DUMBASS. How arrogant and condescending of you. You make a great FReeper.

Besides, it seems to me that the entire Bush administration does NOT appear to be capable of making adult decisions. Yet you support them.

Of course, this dipshit also would actually vote for losing the right to vote!!!!!!

As a 19-year-old, I have wondered whether or not it was a good idea to allow my peers to vote. Tonight, I made up my mind.
If an amendment came out tomorrow to repeal the right of 18- to 20-year-olds to vote, I would vote for that amendment in a HEARTBEAT. I don't care that I would be politically silent for two more years. Apathy is MUCH better than this drivel.


1 posted on 04/16/2004 10:16:58 PM PDT by MegaSilver


Apparently, if you vote Democratic, then you are irresponsible and don't deserve to be allowed to vote.

But if you support someone who is stupider than you, who has a history of alcohol abuse, cocaine usage, driving drunk, and an ARREST RECORD then apparently you are a wise, mature, educated and informed voter.

Jesus Christ, give me a fucking break.

[LTR]

25. What about the Young Republicans?

:shrug:

[pinniped]

26. Don't most of them nuts also want the drinking age lowered to 18?

At least we know their priorities.

If this ever happened would the gambling age be lowered too?

[Orangepeel]

27. I wouldn't have a problem with that

there should be ONE age of full citizenship, at which time one is able to vote, legally obligated when they enter contracts, unrestricted from the purchase of legal products and services, and able to be tried as an adult in a court of law.

Personally, I don't care if that age is 18 or 21.