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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:06 PM
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Poll question: Is Bush TRYING to start WWIII?
The latest round of provocations seem over-the-top even for the inept Bremmer administration.

1.) Shutting down al Sadr's newspaper...

2.) The massacre in Falluja

3.) The new "Israeli-lite" Iraq flag...

4.) And now, the sexually humiliating Iraqi torture photos broadcast on US TV, and later, every media outlet in the Arab world.

Seems to me that one couldn't work harder to provoke an all out Holy War in the region. So, are they trying to provoke a Jihad?
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:07 PM
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1. only the Rapture!
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happynewyear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:08 PM
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2. has it already begun
I am the "other" ... has it already begun? At times I think so. :(

:nuke:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:08 PM
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3. for sure...
It is called the rapture....
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:09 PM
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4. If wiser heads don't step in soon to curtail him and
his cronies, it will definitely end up that way.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:10 PM
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5. Bu$hler is more than willing to pander
to the xians who can't wait for the rapture.

Hate to tell them, that if the rapture comes they really blew it. Cause I've got it from a good source, their names aren't on the list.

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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:13 PM
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6. Could we just fake an amageddon?
so all the PNAC and Fundies and other Kool-Aid swillers will be sucked up in their rapture and leave the rest of us alone?
Imagine.
Nothing to kill or die for.... ;)
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:15 PM
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7. Sure looks that way, Start WWWIII
But they just haven't got the balls to come out and say it. You can bet the boy-king and his righthand man have tempted themselves thinking about pushing the button.

The only thing holding them back are people like us on DU, so don't give up.

BTW: Rapture, it has already gone by and we are the remains!
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:17 PM
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8. That is exactly what popped into my head when i heard
I am outraged!! These guys(americans) should be sent to leavenworth immediately. I cannot imagin how stupid * is to allow all this to go on. And by having it off the american soil, meant he allowed it to happen.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:21 PM
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9. God told Bush!
Dog told the Son Of Sam! Either way you slice it Crazy is Crazy! Bush wants the sand turned to glass like the story goes!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:21 PM
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10. There may be a rapture in the US
but it will be people leaving who've had enough. All that will be left will be right wingers. They'll be so confused because they'll be alone and distraught thinking they were left behind.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:24 PM
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11. It certainly appears that way....
...This is a president totally out of touch with reality. He and his administration were too blind and incompetent to prevent 9-11, they had no idea what to do once the Saddam regime was ousted, they could not build or even maintain a coalition of peace-keeping forces to begin rebuilding Iraq and now it seems they were completely ill-prepared for the inevitable insurgency that is now underway. It is not so much that Bush is deliberately trying to start WW III as much as he and his advisers are too stupid to prevent it. Bush needs to go now! The UN and NATO needs to be brought in right away, before this really escalates beyond the point of no return for the U.S., the Iraqis and the rest of the world.:shrug:
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:27 PM
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12. they WANT to provoke 'the rapture'
...they can't WAIT for it to happen so they are trying to provoke it. Watch Frontline...that story about bu$hit's 'faith' (ie: religious extremeism)...

YOU BET they're trying to start WWIII. That's exactly the objective! They can't and won't SAY that, but that's what it is - David Duke wasn't so subtle about it...don't go thinking for a millisecond that bu$hit and his religious extremeist ilk have any type of different agenda - they don't. They just won't TALK about it openly...
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kymar57 Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:27 PM
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13. Armageddon
I think much of shrub"s support in fundamentalist circles comes from the fact that they think he is their best chance for instigating "Armageddon"and leading to the "Rapture and the 2nd coming":crazy:
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:27 PM
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14. Peace would be bad for
business. HAL and others are pulling in big bucks. They need war to sustain the fear level.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:30 PM
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15. Want to read something REALLY scary???
Edited on Fri Apr-30-04 07:33 PM by Junkdrawer
Peace Through Victory

The only way some form of quiet will ever exist in the Middle East is if Israel is given the latitude to totally defeat its declared enemies. Only then will the terrorist attacks on Israel's civilians come to an end. Perpetual negotiations, diplomatic half measures, or land for peace deals will not bring peace to the Middle East. For those who believe this is an irresponsible notion, I use history as my guide.

Today marks the 60th anniversary of Imperial Japan's unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor, in which 2,500 Americans were killed. There are lessons to be learned from our victory in that war.

In his April 16, 1945 address before a Joint Session of Congress, President Harry Truman stated: So there can be no possible misunderstanding, both Germany and Japan can be certain, beyond any shadow of doubt, that America will continue the fight for freedom until no vestige of resistance remains. We are deeply conscious of the fact that much hard fighting is still ahead of us. Having to pay such a heavy price to make complete victory certain, America will never become a party to any plan for partial victory. To settle for merely another temporary respite would surely jeopardize the future security of the world. Our demand has been, and it remains, unconditional surrender.

On August 6, 1945, just 16-hours after the United States dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan, Truman issued a statement which said, in part: The Japanese began the war from the air at Pearl Harbor. They have been repaid many fold. … We are now prepared to obliterate more rapidly and completely every productive enterprise the Japanese have above ground in any city. We shall destroy their docks, their factories, and their communications. Let there be no mistake: we shall completely destroy Japan's power to make war.

Unfortunately, there's more...

http://www.radioleft.com/mod.php?mod=forum&op=threadview&topicid=28&fo ...
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:38 PM
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16. Bush is finally fessing up
Many of us have been aware that Bush's tutors have had a pretty dramatic agenda -- nothing less than completely reshaping the Middle East forever, and neutralizing all opposition to Israel.

That they should act on these deeply held beliefs should not be a surprise to anyone.

But Bush lied about the war, and most folks thought it was to stand up to prevent an imminent attack from Iraq, because Saddam Hussein was going to Sept 11 us again.

Since the Clarke, Suskind and Woodward etc books have come out, Bush has HAD to be more forthright about what he was up to -- because he is documented as having been planning the war in Iraq and initiating the PNAC plan since 2001, perhaps as early as January. This is why he and Condi are talking about how he was working on a "comprehensive approach to eradicating terrorism permanently" -- I'll bet my life that the PNAC program is that "comprehensive approach.

You don't have to believe in LIHOP/MIHOP to see that one of the ways the Bush administration reacted to Sept 11 was to drool for the opportunity it offered. I'm not saying that was the *only* emotion or motive they felt, but I believe the cynics, wackos and ideologues saw it as a way to get their really big program underway.

You might not get it in Bush soundbites, but if you read the newspapers, and looked into the writings of the people who shape Bush's policy, and especially when you get it expressed in a much less cautious, far more raw medium in the form of their supporters (aka The Flying Monkey Squadron) -- you know that these guys have been itching for a big one for decades. Were miffed when we didn't nuke the Chinese. Ticked off we let Castro survive. Mad we didn't utterly destroy Viet Nam. They see these "failures of nerve" as the root cause of terrorism. YIKES. So now they have their Big One.

Finally, there is of course the religious wackos, of which Bush is one, who believe we are living in The End Times, and seem to be getting their foreign policy straight out of the Book of Revelation.

Yeah, I saw this coming as early as 1982 and spoke up about it then, but even so, watching it unfold is still horrible.



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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 07:46 PM
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17. Great post...
I call it the Cassandra Syndrome:

You can see it coming so clearly, but no one seems to listen....

For those who aren't up on their Greek mythology...
http://www.loggia.com/myth/cassandra.html
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-30-04 08:11 PM
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18. Oh, I forgot the "Backing Sharon on the Permanent Settlements" thing...
Oh, and then there's the blowing up the mosques...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 05:23 PM
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19. Kick
:kick:
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