What is Michael Ramirez trying to say?

[CatWoman]

[benburch]

1. That we are in for a shock.

I think so, anyway.

[Sparkly]

2. That with those acts

US credibility was damaged, and *we* are humiliated. I've been hearing that from pundits to, and wonder "What US credibility?" I think the Chimp destroyed that long ago.

[mrdmk]

3. Michael Ramirez is nothing more than RW wing-nut

I truly miss Robert Conrad in the Los Angeles Times. Now we have to stomach Michael Ramirez and his spin on matters in the opinion section.

[Sparkly]

4. I didn't know that

Maybe I misinterpreted it, then.

[CatWoman]

5. that's my point

a cartoon such as this from a right wing nut.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

6. Right, even a rabid RWer cartoonist like Ramirez has a hard time

drinking the Kool-Aid on this one and knows it's bad, bad, bad for the U.S.

[CatWoman]

7. Yup!!

I was totally shocked when I saw it. :wow:

[mrdmk]

8. Still this is from a point of view

1) We hear about torture, and we as a group are aghast.

2) Some of RW wing-nuts hear about torture and they think it is about time that we use it.

This cartoon can go both ways depending as to how you look at it!

[PurityOfEssence]

9. Point well taken

This guy is a vicious screaming reactionary without a qualm or a scruple about the extremity of his vilification of the left. For him to break ranks and show a cartoon that points out that we're in trouble on the world stage is quite a momentous turn.

Remember when the Right Wing went after him because they were too stupid to understand that his riff on the famous Vietnam photo was an attack on leftists, not a threat against the President?

During the '02 election, he had a cartoon where Junior was the pilot of a two-seater biplane, and Daschle was in the gunner's position pointing the ring-gun at the back of the Junior's head.

[CatWoman]

12. Didn't someone sic the Secret Service on him

behind that Fall of Vietnam/Iraq cartoon?

[PurityOfEssence]

14. Yep, it was a dragnet: dumb-da-dumb-dumb

He was spluttering at his masters' idiocy.

[bemildred]

10. Yep. He knows it's bad.

I can remember one or two others where he
broke with his usual form of incoherent "conservativism".

[Tatiana]

11. I think he's trying to say that Bush has crossed the line.

And that we've lost all credibility and moral standing internationally. The RWingers are getting fed up. Remember, they've got businesses and corporate interests overseas too. Bush is f*cking with their pocketbook now.

[truth2power]

13. Our credibility has now been clothed

in the image of a tortured POW. What we could have been is under the cloak. Notice the starsand stripes.

[CatWoman]

15. damn!!! just caught that!!!!

:D

[nostamj]

16. i would say that even Ramirez

can't write this off as 'garden-variety' frat hazing...

maybe his message is to the RW saying this is killing 'their' credibility?

can't tell you how many times I've seen utterly HATEFUL toons from this loon