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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:29 PM
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kissinger: Iraqis should 'look into the mirror' and see what THEY
Edited on Sun May-02-04 03:37 PM by amen1234


have done to make this happen (referring to American war-criminals abusing Iraqi POWs).....



blitzer also asked: hasn't this been going on in every war?

kissinger: yes, in every war where we want intelligence...



(listened to this TWICE today, and wrote it down the second time, may not be exact, but it is REAL close to the exact words of the vicious kissinger - a transcript and/or video would be greatly appreciated...it's at the end of today's blitzer interview)
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for all you younger DUers....henry kissinger is wanted for international crimes in at least 5 countries...he has a LOT of blood on his hands....and it saddens me greatly that anyone allows criminals on National TV to spout more hate and spew out the usual 'blame the victims' and 'shoot the messenger'.....
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:32 PM
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1. Fucking Nazi Scumbag
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:33 PM
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2. Really Mr. Kissinger??
Are you prepared to admit that US Intelligence services tortured Viet Cong detainees during your tenure in the Nixon Administration.

And since we're talking about it, did you know you could be charged with multiple federal offenses for ignoring evidence that United State's Forces were being ordered to commit atrocities and you did nothing about it?

Really, this is fantastic. Finally the murderous little pecker is just going to admit it. I love it. Exposing themselves one by one.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 05:57 PM
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22. How About Hammerin' Hank Hangin' The Kurds To Dry In '75???
How soon he forgets the deal HE struck with Saddam Hussein...in 1975, he and our good buddy the Shah of Iran worked a deal with Hussein to stop providing support to the Kurdish insurection in return for Saddam playing ball with the oil boys. That led to Donnie Rumsfeld coming to Baghadad in the 80's with his Mr. Chemistry Lab catalogue in hand.

The blood on Kissinger's hands extend decades and continents...the ultimate capitalist's tool.
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 06:38 PM
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25. Yep, but they're not going to face any sort of justice.
The U.S. government is far too arrogant to allow its so-called leaders face charges in international court.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:33 PM
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3. if there is such a thing as karma...
ahh, never mind.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:34 PM
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4. er... by Kissinger's logic
the soldiers in Iraq who come under attack by locals have to ask what they have done to make this happen. Kind of dangerous line of rationale there, Henry... rather surprised with your keen and careful use of rhetoric that you would go in this direction.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:36 PM
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5. It's actually a good thing that he's saying these things.
This is the truth, folks. We need to strip away the myths of war from the minds of Americans. The more they realize how bad it truly is, the better.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:38 PM
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6. Oh Geeeez
I suppose being outraged about the abuse makes us "The Blame America First Crowd," as usual... Real Murcans just yawn complacently and say "They asked for it; besides, it happens in every war..."
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:48 PM
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7. War Crimes
Edited on Sun May-02-04 03:53 PM by G_j
It's all here:

http://www.zpub.com/un/wanted-hkiss.html





Aliases: Henry Alfred Kissinger, Heinz Alfred Kissinger, Butcher of Cambodia

DESCRIPTION
Age: 80+ Build: Heavy
Sex: Male Hair: Gray
Height: ?? Eyes:
Weight: ??? pounds Race: White (or is it " khazaran jew. an asiatic"?)

CAUTION
In the minutes of a secret 1975 meeting of the National Security Council attended by President Ford reveal Henry Kissinger grumbling, "It is an act of insanity and national humiliation to have a law prohibiting the President from ordering assassination." - LOST CRUSADER: The Secret Wars of CIA Director William Colby, by John Prados, Oxford University Press, 2003

The February and March 2001 issues of Harper's Magazine feature a series by Christopher Hitchens on the case for charging Kissinger with War Crimes. Part I: The making of a war criminal Part 2 will feature an extensive section on East Timor.

Christopher Hitchens' Trial of Henry Kissinger: A Review By Mike McGlothlin ...

Hitchens presents a rather straightforward argument that establishes two seemingly undeniable propositions: on at least one occasion, Henry K. conspired to commit murder, and that on numerous other occasions, Henry K. was the primary force behind certain acts that could quite plausibly be considered war crimes. The case for Henry K. as murder conspirator is what Hitchens calls a "lay-down" case, i.e., one that stands out for its clear facts and clear law. The murder victim is General Rene Schneider, who was the Commander in Chief of the Chilean Army, whom Hitchens misidentifies as the Chilean "Chief of Staff."; According to Hitchens (and the 09 September, 1970 minutes of the "40" Committee, the Kissinger chaired secret panel that oversaw U.S. covert operations), the Chilean military had a strong tradition of neutrality in political affairs, a rarity on the South American continent. General Schneider was known as an officer committed to upholding the Chilean constitution and therefore opposed to the rumored incipient coup against newly elected Socialist President Salvador Allende by a right wing would-be junta of current and former Chilean military officers. Using U.S. Government communications cables from the CIA and documents from the State Department, and White House, Hitchens relates the facts of Kissinger's direct involvement in the direction, planning, financing, and general support by the organs of the U.S. Government in the plot to remove General Schneider.

LA Weekly: WLS Review: Henry: Portrait of a Serial Kissinger

How You Can Do What the Government Won’t: Arrest Henry Kissinger - Manhattan’s Milosevic, The Village Voice, Week of August 15 - 21, 2001

... bring Henry Kissinger to justice for crimes against
..more..
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:47 PM
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11. aka
the ace of spades
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 07:04 PM
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28. Wanted for questioning in (what is it) four countries, five?
Bet he prays that there won't be an emergency landing in any of those countries when he flies over on his way to do his dirty deeds.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 10:32 PM
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33. everyone should watch "The Trial of Henry Kissinger"
available on video and DVD, if you can find it. A real eye opener!
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:52 PM
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8. think maybe he's getting a little senile,
he's just gonna spill the beans?
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 03:53 PM
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9. Mirror mirror on the wall...
Edited on Sun May-02-04 03:56 PM by xray s
Mirror mirror on the wall...who's the fascist after all...is it he, or is it me?...rape rooms and torture, for all to see.




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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:28 PM
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10. LOL!! Good one!
:thumbsup:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:49 PM
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12. Jessica Lynch meets Iraqi who helped her


HUNTINGTON, W.Va. -- Former Iraq prisoner of war Jessica Lynch has met the lawyer who provided information that led to her rescue last year.

The meeting with Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief took place on April 7 in Washington, where Lynch was speaking at a seminar. Al-Rehaief's wife, Iman, and daughter accompanied him to the meeting, which lasted about an hour, Lynch's lawyer, Stephen Goodwin, said Friday.

"It went very well. As Jessi has always indicated, she wanted it to be a private meeting," he said.

Lynch was captured March 23, 2003, after her 507th Maintenance Company convoy was ambushed in the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah.

more...
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Lynch%20Lawyer

what a creep :puke:

peace
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:57 PM
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13. Eh?
What do you mean, who's a creep?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 05:13 PM
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18. kissinger, of course
Edited on Sun May-02-04 05:38 PM by noiretblu
the poster provided an example of an iraqi who doesn't need to "look in the mirror to see what he's done" to cause this mess.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 04:57 PM
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14. here's the exact transcript...even more chilling than I recalled...
Edited on Sun May-02-04 05:13 PM by amen1234


-snips-

BLITZER: But let me interrupt, Dr. Kissinger. Let me interrupt, Dr. Kissinger, and say this: Everyone is saying, "shocked, shocked." They're totally shocked by this. But you know the nature of interrogation of prisoners, prisoners who were suspected of knowing information that could result in the deaths of American soldiers, to humiliate them to stop just short of formally torturing them. Hasn't that been going on in every war?

KISSINGER: I suspect that pressure has been put on prisoners possessing intelligence information in every war, and I think what should also keep in mind who these people might have been.

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KISSINGER: I must say another -- could I say one other thing?

BLITZER: Go ahead.

KISSINGER: I mean, this is occurring in a context in when -- in which. On Middle East television, their cutting the throat of American prisoners is being shown. So it is a terrible atmosphere.

It is not excusable, but some of the people who express such outrage in the region should look into their own souls to see what they have contributed to creating an atmosphere where this can happen.


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(sorry....I thought he said 'look into the mirror', when he actually said 'look into their OWN SOULS' - it's really hard to understand kissinger with his heavy nazi-accent)....

kissinger interview at the end of this transcript....
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0405/02/le.00.html

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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 06:43 PM
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26. Would that include the Likudniks, I wonder?
"But some of the people who express such outrage in the region should look into their own souls to see what they have contributed to creating an atmosphere where this can happen."


I'm just askin.../
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 05:07 PM
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15. Great. Same as "blaming the rapist". She "asked for it" because
she was cute and wearing a short dress.

This pig just needs to fade away into a nursing home, where hopefully, he'll be abused and then we can all tell him he was "asking for it".

Scum bag
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 05:11 PM
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16. Somebody help me here...
Our arrogant, sociopath, pathetic excuse for a president invades another country without justification or provocation, we abuse the citizens of that country, killing and maiming, destroying and humiliating them, and they are supposed to figure out what THEY have done wrong?

If we do not get this evil bunch out of power in November, there will no longer be any hope that we can regain our souls, and become the nation we pretend we are. If they continue to remain in power, how long will it take before the rest of the world unites against us?

Our only salvation is to win in November, and withdraw immediately from Iraq. I realize we are morally obligated to pay for rebuilding what we have destroyed, but I would far rather my tax dollars go toward that, than further enriching Dumbass's buddies.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 05:11 PM
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17. The war criminal needs to shut his piehole. eom
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 05:32 PM
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19. it's very haunting to have kissinger making so many public TV appearances

there should be NO DOUBT that much of the tourmoil in the Middle East is caused by these old-hands from nixon, reaguns, and bush1....

remember when bush* tried to get kissinger into the 9/11 commission?

kissinger had to decline the honor because it required him to reveal his war-profiteering business clients...getting rich off waging wars, using other people's children and the taxpayers money....that's kissinger...a real nazi....
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 05:35 PM
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20. And don't forget, L. Paul Bremer

Is a Kissinger Toady from way back.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 05:52 PM
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21. please tell me more about the bremer/kissinger connections....thanks....

the bush family evil empire (BFEE) extends so far with so many connections, that sometimes it's difficult to figure out "whose on first".....like the 'coincidental?' dinner of neil bush (bush* S&L scandal brother) with reagun-assassin-hinkley's brother THE SAME DAY AS THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT....

:hi:
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 06:23 PM
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23. Well, for starters
During the 1970s Bremer held various domestic posts with the State Department, including posts as assistant to Henry Kissinger from 1972-76. After working in the State Dept. and then after being Ambassador to the Netherlands in 1983 and Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism in 1986.,Bremer retired from the Foreign Service in 1989 and became managing director at Kissinger Associates, a worldwide consulting firm founded by Henry Kissinger.



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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 06:37 PM
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24. WOW !....the whole criminal enterprise...kissinger must be thrilled
....to have so many of his THUGS in high position, while he personally benefits from bush* tax cuts and enormous war-profiteering...

wonder how much money old kissinger is making on the Iraq war....it'd be great to see the records of Kissinger Associates, world-wide consulting firm...could clear up a lot of issues, especially if the reaguns records ever get released to the public, as required by law....

thanks for all your help....it helps me put the puzzle together...

:toast:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 07:01 PM
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27. Color commentary by another war criminal?
Fuck Kissinger
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 07:08 PM
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29. Make me wonder how Kissinger combs his hair - how can he stand...
to see that staring back in the mirror?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 07:22 PM
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30. Kissinger has personal knowledge of counter-intelligence ops...
...as a "German interpreter" from WWII:

<http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/biography/Kissinger.html>

Excerpt:

"While attending City College of New York, in 1943, he was drafted into the Army and became a German interpreter for the 970th Counter-intelligence Corps. When Germany surrendered in May 1945, Kissinger held various positions in the military government."

How much is anyone willing to bet that Herr Doctor was involved in quite a bit more than just "translating"?

Scumbag.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 07:33 PM
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31. Well, Henry, Master War Criminal, thinks it's OK!! It must be OK
He is single-handedly responsible for many thousands of unnecessary American deaths and hundreds of thousands of Cambodian deaths, so he should know!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 08:03 PM
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32. Chile will never forget Salvador Allende whom Kissinger
was responsible for the CIA killing him and proping up one the biggest
assholes that ever live ...


CHILE:

HOW WE DESTROY THE OLDEST DEMOCRACY IN SOUTH AMERICA,

AND TURN A PEACE-LOVING NATION

INTO A SLAUGHTERHOUSE

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lormand/poli/soa/chile.htm
Please read how the bloody hand of Henry Kissinger was involved.
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