MSNBC outs John O'Neill for what he really is

[belladonna]

Didn't see this posted anywhere yet, sorry if it's a dupe.

snip

After the news conference, O’Neill met with Charles Colson at the White House, where the attack on Kerry was seen as a public relations coup. In a conversation with the president, Haldeman gave the credit to Charles Colson, and raved about John O’Neill:

Haldeman: -- crew cut, real sharp looking guy who is more articulate than Kerry. He’s not as eloquent; he isn’t the ham that Kerry is. But he’s more believable.

Haldeman: This guy now, is gonna, he’s gonna move on Kerry.

much more at http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4534274/

[CatWoman]

1. good job, Belladonna!!!!

:thumbsup:

Good job.

[whistle]

2. The same sick mentality in the White House as 34 years ago..

...Look what they were saying about Kerry:

The Nixon White House saw Kerry as a threat, and set out to discredit him and infiltrate his organization. The week after the protest rally, Nixon is heard discussing Kerry with White House aide Charles Colson:

Colson: This fellow Kerry that they had on last week --

Nixon: Yeah.

Colson: -- hell, he turns out to be, uh, really quite a phony.

Nixon: Well, he is sort of a phony, isn't he?

Colson: Well, he stayed, when he was here --

Nixon: Stayed out in Georgetown, yeah.

Colson: -- was out at the best restaurants every night and, uh --

Nixon: Sure.

Colson: -- you know, he's just, the complete opportunist.

Nixon: A racket, sure.

Colson: We’ll keep hitting him, Mr. President.


Now, the Bush White House has no tapes, so we don't know whatr they are saying behind closed doors, but from what they are saying out in public about Kerry, I can imagine it is far worse. It's time for change. No more Bush!

[BiggJawn]

3. Colson...the same Chuck Colson who runs the prison ministry?

That guy? Guess he's fallen through the cracks of the ol' memory hole if I can't rememer him as a Nixon "Playah"....

Maybe he can minister to Bush and Rumsferatu, and Condi....

[belladonna]

4. One and the same

Apparently he found Gawd while he was in the big house

[BiggJawn]

10. They ALL find Gawd in the Big House....

it's either that, or "Dance with Tiny".

I could just see him advising Rumsferatu..."Now Don, you'll wanna clench-up, but I'm tellin' ya, DON'T CLENCH UP when you feel it going in!"

[leesa]

5. Kerry's a ham?? I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that!

Of course Republicans are so boring and ill-spoken, I guess anyone would be a ham in comparison to them.

[Tansy_Gold]

6. Joe Conason outed O'Neill as a Nixon creation over a week ago

Article in Salon, 23 April.

www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/04/23/o_neill/print.html
The GOP's no-so-impartial hit man

<snip>
Desperate to denigrate John Kerry's war record, REpublicans have trotted out a "nonpartisan" Navy Vietnam vet -- who was a protege of Nixon dirty trickster Charles Colson and whose law firm is closely tied to the Bush White House.
<end snip>


I just want to give credit where credit is due.

[belladonna]

8. How did I manage to miss that?

Thanks for the heads up!! So many things to keep up with these assholes in the WH, gets hard to keep up with it all :crazy:

[Tansy_Gold]

12. LOL, I dunno! ;-)

I get virtually all my news from DU, Buzzflash, and one email list I'm on, and I'm pretty sure the Conason thing came from Buzzflash.

I happened to catch the CSPAN rerun of the Dick Cavett interview with O'Neill and Kerry a couple of weeks ago, and I was struck then by how aggressive and rude O'Neill was, to the point that Cavett had to cut him off very abruptly. I got the distinct impression that O'Neill had been coached, and coached well, where Kerry was speaking from his heart -- when O'Neill would let him get a word in edgewise. Little did I know. . . .

[Tellurian]

7. Kerry Quote:

“This is a government that cares more about the legality of where men sleep than the legality of where we drop bombs and why men die.”

— John Kerry, April, 1971

Anti-war rally, U.S. Capitol


Little has changed!!!!

[Tellurian]

9. Deja Vu..

msnbc link:

Nixon's counter-attack

Colson was Nixon’s point man against Kerry, and he found a weapon in another veteran: John O’Neill. He was a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, which backed Nixon administration policy in Vietnam, and in turn was supported by the White House.

The White House file

John O’Neill, selected to debate John Kerry about the Vietman War, in the Oval Office with President Nixon and White House aide Charles Colson.

Fresh out of the Navy like Kerry, O’Neill was angry at Kerry for saying U.S. servicemen in Vietnam routinely committed war crimes. The weekend before the Washington protests, Kerry made the accusations on NBC’s Meet the Press, saying, “I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed, in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones.” And, Kerry claimed, “I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All this is contrary to the laws of warfare.”

John O’Neill hit back at Kerry with administration-orchestrated press appearances of his own, including a news conference that June. O’Neill asked rhetorically, “Shall Mr. Kerry and his little group of one thousand or twelve thousand embittered men be allowed to represent their views as that of all veterans, because they can appear on every news program? I hope not, for the country’s sake.”

[riverwalker]

11. as we all know, there were NO atrocities

during the Vietnam war. Absolutely none, cuz Karen Hughes told us so.

[xray s]

13. Ha! They are so desperate they have to resurrect Nixon's goons

Next thing you know Liddy will be breaking into the DNC.