Question about the draft.

[Solon]

If I get a work visa in another country, could the United States recall me for the draft?

[ohiosmith]

1. Yes

[Solon]

3. Ah Crap, ok so another means...

Would renouncing Citizenship be enough?

[ohiosmith]

6. You could still be prosecuted if you reentered the states.

2. yes

:)

[bluestateguy]

4. Yes, but...

Depends on which country as to whether or not the federal government would have the machinery to actually make you come back to the US. If it was in a country where the US had no reciprocal treaty, or extradition treaty should you become a draft evader, then you would be safe, unless you were stupid enough to set foot on a US Embassy (where law enforcement would have jurisdiction).

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and the above shall not constitute official legal advice.

[Fleshdancer]

5. I was suprised to read about many of the loopholes being sealed up

Apparently being in college isn't enough either. The new rule is that you're able to finish the semester but then you have to go unless you're a senior (you can complete the last year before going).

[truhavoc]

7. I might just have to be a 5th, 6th, 7th, who knows 8th year senior! n/t

8. Also

I'd like to add (from my perspective as a conscientious objector in Vietnam) that you should have the courage of your damn convictions.
If you are against war, be a c.o. even if it means going to prison.

It is cowardly to try to find some f- loophole.

Being against war is not about not accepting responsibility. I don't really approve of a draft, but when I see the type of attitude it looks to me like you are close to manifesting in your question, it brings me very close to saying that there should be a draft, that they should close all loopholes and make this current young generation have to deal with what previous generations have had to deal with.

[Solon]

9. I ask for another reason actually

I am applying for jobs outside the country because of the lack of jobs here, at least at living wages (FUCK McJOBS). It's a practical consideration, but I want to file under CO status WITHOUT leaving my employment, would that be possible?

10. I think so

I'm not completely up on current law.

You can file and should regardless of employment.

My hunch would be that they would defer service for a period of time if you got c.o. status in a non-military capacity (1-O) If your c.o. status was the equivalent of 1-A-O (such as being a medic) I doubt they'd allow you to defer, however.

If you aren't already aware of these sites they will have more info-
http://www.warresisters.org/
http://www.objector.org/

[Solon]

11. Thanks, I can understand if you thought I was doing this...

for avoiding the draft, but its more pragmatic than political. Though I oppose the war, I wouldn't label myself a coward, only practical considerations for what would happen if the draft was called and I was overseas.

12. Sorry if I jumped to a conclusion

or came close to it.
I wasn't positive what your motivations were, which is why I qualified my initial statement by saying it seemed you were close to manifesting an attitude.

I have seen other posters here who do manifest the attitude of just trying to escape without consequence. Hopefully one or two of them will see my comment and think about it.

[Solon]

14. I guess it would be a fine line...

between being a political ex-pat and an economic ex-pat, for me it would be accurate to say both, because if we are honest then opportunities are drying up here, only makes sense for some to find greener pastures. Besides, I am going to try to find a job somewhere in the world, don't hopefully in Europe, but if I could find a good one in the States, though they are few and far between, then I would take that too. Just keeping open all possibilities.

[Guy_Montag]

13. Can you claim asylum?

I have no idea, but I imagine that you could probably find some clause in EU human rights legislation that would keep you safe over here.

Or at least you can probably spin out the court cases for the duration of the war & post war mopping up.

[Solon]

15. I believe drafting people is not considered persecution...

of course, INACTION by a host country would be just as effective as actually claiming asylum. i.e. they don't bother to reciprocate for extradition of draft-dodgers. Besides, I would go for C.O. status in any case, regardless of what loopholes the host county would allow.