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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:27 PM
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Is it true that Blackwater was the civilian company ?
that worked in Abu Ghraib prison? I read that in some post this morning but I cannot find it now. And weren't the four civilians that were killed, burned, and hung from the bridge, employees of Blackwater? And if that is true, isn't it highly probable that those four civilians were targeted? Could they have abused or tortured someone in that prison and their killing was one of revenge? Just a thought, knowing what we know now, it puts a different perspective on the killing of those four civilians, if they were employees of that prison?
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:32 PM
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1. CACI is the company at the prison,,,
also Titan if memory serves.

Blackwater could have been involved in almost anything because NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THEY DO, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES THEY HAVE THERE, WHAT THEIR CONTRACT SAYS...The same with them all...a black hole.
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:33 PM
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2. makes sense to me. The grisly nature of the killings in Fallujah could..
have been payback. The time frame seems to fit.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:35 PM
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3. I thought Abu Ghraib was Cacci and I know for sure that the four who were
hung from the bridge were Blackwater, because I read alot about it when it broke.

I don't have the links, maybe someone will search. At the time I thought the Blackwater folks might have done something that caused them to be treated the way they were. There were many posts and threads about them here. Blackwater is here in NC, so I took alot of interest in it. :scared:

Cacci is out of CA, I believe and has some ties to one of Bush's Crime cabinet. Armitage, I believe. Hope this helps.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:36 PM
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4. Torture, the CIA and the Press
Is this not a recipe for the type of "contractors" who flooded Iraq after the invasion and occupation? The only difference is that a CIA agent under "non-official cover" is no longer referred to as a NOC, but as an OGA, for Other Government Agency.

Before I continue to put in context the persuasive impact of what Hersh said two and half years ago, when he was prodding America to unleash its dogs of war, let me remind you that the agents who drew the CIA into the line of fire over the systematic use of torture at Abu Ghoryab prison ­ as a result, ironically, of Hersh's most recent "explosive" article in The New Yorker ­ were two individuals who fit the "nonofficial cover" bill exactly: Mr. John Israel, a contract US civilian interpreter, working for the company CACI, and ostensibly attached to the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade; and Mr. Steven Stephanowicz, a contract US civilian interrogator, also working for CACI, but not attached to Military Intelligence, and certainly working for the CIA.

The whereabouts of Messrs. Stephanowicz and Israel are currently unknown, and CACI doesn't have to tell, because: 1) as we are told by Hersh, "Exposure could mean death," and 2) because, their trail leads to the CIA people who hired them; and the one thing Bush cannot accept, is having heroic a CIA agent brought up on a murder rap.

Try, if you can, to imagine a trial by jury, or tribunal, in which a CIA officer was sentenced to death for killing an Iraqi civilian.

Then come quickly to your senses, and realize that CIA officers have a license to kill, just as Army snipers can assassinate Iraqi civilians with impunity. The fact is, the war crime of murder is not punishable by death under the Bush Regime, for it was the Bush Regime that lifted all the moral and legal restraints on its soldiers and spies in the first place. So far, murdering Iraqis carries with it only a less than honorable discharges.

more
http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine05082004.html
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:38 PM
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5. The Blackwell people are the ones that fired on women and
children during the demonstration that erupted when Bremer shut down the anti-US newspaper that had a circulation of 5,000. Over 200 were hurt and I forget how many died. Within a few days, their jeep was attacked as they drove through the city. Not much brains with these folks it seems. So the US started all this crap.
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PragMantisT Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-04 04:59 PM
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6. I thought the same thing
Maybe the Iraqis think like Repukes. You know, get attacked by Saudis, attack Afghanistan and Iraq, but NOT Saudi Arabia, because, hey, we're there. So what if CACI is beating and raping our kids? One set of bacon eaters is as good as any.

They must work for *, they think just like him.
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