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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 11:56 AM
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Cheney shown on CNN crowing about the Berg murder....
Speaking in South Palm Beach.

Trying his best to deflect attention from Bush's Prisoner Torture Scandal. Going on about staying the course to fight terror. Hyping the "outrage" over Berg with nary a word about Bush's Military's crimes.

Good luck, Dick.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:00 PM
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1. yeah
bang that dead horse bad-heart-boy. That story is causing them more problems with its unanswered questions. They may wanna rethink their "wag the dog" decoys.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:18 PM
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6. Oh, yea. Like Crashcart cares.....
Hooooey!
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:13 PM
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15. hahahahaha
I thought my "bad-heart-boy" was good but Crashcart rocks LOL
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:02 PM
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2. Except that Berg's father
keeps blaming the US.

I think the American populace identifies more with a grieving parent than with a cynical, nasty oligarch.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:06 PM
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3. No kidding!
I hope his dad continues to speak out. That will certainly put a kink in their plans to rally the troops around the corpses of innocent Americans, like the ones who died on 9/11.

While Cheney is using that as a rationale for escalating the violence, they should show pictures of Berg's father crumpled in despair on the front lawn alongside his "War is not the answer" sign.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:06 PM
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4. Cheney was supportive...
...of the South African apartheid regime, and he ok'd the hiring of Pinochet and apartheid killers in no-bid contracts for "deployment" in Iraq. His Senate voting record is one of the most right-wing neocon voting records one can imagine. Why hasn't his being a seal clubbing Nazi been made more an issue? He and Rush Gasbag have quite a bit in common.

"I'm A Nazi" - the smash hit duet by Rush Limbaugh and Richard Cheney
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:12 PM
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5. bad imaging from these folks...
So, there's Cheney speaking to a Jewish group in South Florida. Fair enough, I certainly don't have a problem with it.

But I have the tv on mute while listening to Air America streaming, I look up at the tv and what do I see? I see Dick Cheney speaking and directly behind him is the Israeli Flag, not the US Flag and my first thought was, "what on earth is he doing?" All I could think was, "well, that's a real nice propoganda shot for any anti-Israel commentary."

I'm not writing this for any Arab/Israeli commentary. I mention this because from a PR standpoint, these guys can be pretty careless in some of their imagery and I thought this was a good example of it. Even if they aren't neutral, they should at least give the appearance of it when it comes to media shots.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:21 PM
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8. That's what he wanted.....
He is very similar to Mr Sharon...
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:33 PM
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9. Oh, I agree that is the truth of the matter
But I just think it is stupid of them to not be more careful in the image they are projecting, especially right now, in light of the prison abuse, poor Nick Berg, etc. It is not helpful in the least. The Arabs and the Israelis have enough problems as it is without us adding to them carelessly.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:34 PM
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11. I agree....
But I don't think they give a damn. Only if it helps them "politically"...
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:45 PM
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12. To be fair...
They often are in front of flags of other countries. I recall that there is a picture popular among right-wing anti-Semites of Bush standing in front of an Israeli flag. It is true, though, that this will earn no votes among Arab-Americans. And Bush is no friend to the Jewish community either with his Christian fundamentalist ideology--he's just using Jews to further geostrategic ambitions.
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fairfaxvadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:03 PM
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14. You're right.
And I really don't have a problem with it but coming from a administration that carefully orchestrates what the backdrops are, it just struck me as odd.

They sure aren't friends of the Jewish Community, they'll get used and abused by this crowd. And, they aren't friends of the Arab Community for that matter either, unless you are a rich Saudi or part of the "oil club". The reason, of course, is the moral superiority of their Christian identity. Scary.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:19 PM
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7. NYT had an editorial denouncing such wingnut strategy this AM:

Nicholas Berg's Death
....
The claim of this young American's murderers that they were retaliating for the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners is a cruel ruse. They killed him out of the same madness that drove their comrades in Al Qaeda to slaughter thousands on Sept. 11, 2001. But this manipulative attempt to establish a moral equivalence between the gruesome execution of Mr. Berg and the torture of Iraqi prisoners is now being mimicked by some hard-core supporters of the American war in Iraq. They are cynically trying to use the images of Mr. Berg to wipe away the images of Abu Ghraib, turning the abhorrence for the murderers into an excuse for demonizing Arabs and Muslims, or for sanctioning their torture....
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/14/opinion/14FRI2.html?ex=1085112000&en=a72c7e895be6a7c0&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:34 PM
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10. Hey Dick Cheney, Kiss My Ass!!!!!!!
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:47 PM
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13. Perhaps Cheney should ask Berg's family how they feel about it.
Nah...that wouldn't fit the script.
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