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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 05:30 PM
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Why are TEACHERS showing the Berg video to their students?
Guess they are trying to "Hannitize" them.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/3306569/detail.html

Beheading Video Allegedly Shown In Class
Teachers Removed From Classrooms During Investigation

POSTED: 12:41 pm PDT May 14, 2004

LOS ANGELES -- Two local high school teachers have been removed from their classrooms while school officials investigate allegations that images, sound and video from a gruesome decapitation video were shown in class.

The gruesome images of an American hostage Nick Berg being beheaded in Iraq have been seen by millions of people around the world on the Internet. American television networks have shown portions of the video leading up to the murder, but none have broadcast the actual killing.

The superintendent of the Grossmont Union High School District, in the San Diego area, Terry Ryan (pictured, right) told NBC News Friday that students and parents have come forward with allegations that the video was shown in a class at El Capitan High School. A teacher at Grossmont High School is accused of bringing still images from the video to class and playing the audio portion of the tape to students.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/3306569/detail.html
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 05:38 PM
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1. Ok the superintendent did the right thing
but makes me wonder just how fast the peoople are turnign against the war in my neck of hte woods....

And yes this is red meat to the base, it is
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 05:38 PM
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2. More like traumatize them.....
There are adults here who refuse to watch it because it is disturbing.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 05:39 PM
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3. There is NO WAY
will I watch that video.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 05:42 PM
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5. Me neither...
Edited on Fri May-14-04 05:42 PM by Jack_Dawson
I can't watch someone snapping their ankle in a football game. You think I'm gonna watch THAT shit?
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 05:54 PM
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7. I'm with you
I've had nightmares from looking at the torture photos. I had nightmares after the selection even. Nope not going to be watching that video of Berg may he rest in peace. I just can't do it.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:00 PM
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8. I read in the article that one of the teachers had stills and played the
audio. The audio is hellish so I don't think that's much better.

One of them made a statement like - this is what happens when you go to war. But was it her place to present it in class? Not in MHO.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:22 PM
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10. i sleep through earthquakes, but that audio jolts me awake
usually i have radio on when i go to bed..
havent been able to do that all week due to constant blood curdling screams.
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 05:41 PM
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4. I won't watch it. I don't like violent movies and I know they are fake.
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:38 PM
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15. I absolutely refuse to watch it....
I've stumbled upon gruesome images on the Internet that are still burned in my mind, so I know better than watch something like that.

Shit, I still wake up screaming every so often dreaming I'm in the World Trade Center and the floor is caving in and the building is toppling on me and around me and I've never been to NY and live in California, that's how strong my sympathy is for the people who died.

I'm sure I'll have nightmares about Berg just knowing what happened to him and how much he must have suffered and I haven't even seen the video. I'm not about to watch it.

WTF was that teacher thinking? So, who's going to represent the parents in the suite against the school?

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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 05:52 PM
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6. WTF!
possessed these POS to do this?

this is sooo wrong.

i haven't even watched the damn video and i'm an adult.

fucking arrogant psychotic assholes. :mad:

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:17 PM
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9. thing is, its being played by all the rabid wingers on their radio shows
For his service to the fatherland, Hannity has earned a spot on tomorrow's Today Show.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:28 PM
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13. and the teachers...
that was their intent as well,
to serve the fatherland!!!
it's one thing if adults want to subject themselves to 'it'
they have the choice to turn it off,
but kids in a classroom,
they're under the direction of the school, teachers etc.
it was not up to these teachers to decide whether 'they' should watch or needed to see the pictures,
that decision was for their parents and the individuals.

i'm very angry about this,CatWoman!!!!



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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:23 PM
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11. Show them everything. The dead civilians in Fallujah. Dead US soldiers.
Edited on Fri May-14-04 06:36 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
THEY NEED TO BE READY FOR THE DRAFT. Showing them war is as responsible as sex education. IT COULD SAVE THEIR LIVES AND PREVENT THE NEXT WAR.

There is no way to be an informed electorate in a hyperpower who's government affects life and death around the world without seeing the results of policies.

When I was 10 years old in 1971 I saw photos of US GIs sitting on the ground smiling around their trophies, 4 Viet Cong heads. Then I read a soldier's letter home to his sister describing what hand to hand combat was like when his camp was overrun in the night by VC. He described watching bodies fly apart in chunks as he hit them with heavy fire. Then burying his machete into the torso of what in the morning turned out to be a VC teenage girl. He threw up for hours as did many of his buddies.

That's how I learned about war and it has shaped my attitudes my entire life since I was 10 years old. There is no hiding from reality.


Show every drop of blood, body part, screaming injured children, injured soldiers.

Show every fucking bit of it. Out of sight, out of mind.

It's time to face it and be mindfull. That's how people respond to prevent suffering and improve the world. Not by watching sports and 'Friends' reruns.

You want people to stop going to war? Then show it to them without 'patriotic' propaganda about the Big Lie of how wonderful it is to die for your country and to just trust your president!!!!
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:27 PM
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12. This teacher .... arggghhhhhh
Edited on Fri May-14-04 06:28 PM by TexasBushwhacker
I just can't imagine what would make this teacher decide to show this to his/her students. Pictures, audio, there is just no way this is appropriate for a class room. I can see that the social studies classes might want to discuss the matter as part of "current events", but even then, something this volatile should have been run by the department head and administration first.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:32 PM
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14. Hail Hail....El *de*Capitan High......
:wow: :wtf:
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:52 PM
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16. grossmont union high school district is in the east county..
not exactly a haven of progressive thought. El Capitan High (or the preferred nomenclature, El Crapitan) is in Lakeside, which next to Santee (read Klantee), has more "Calvin pissing decals" per capita than anywhere else in the US.

GUHSD was also the district that hosted two school shootings within weeks of each other.

BTW, I'm a product of the GUHSD, having attended both El Cajon and Granite Hills.
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