Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Gas prices = Saudi manipulation?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 07:59 AM
Original message
Gas prices = Saudi manipulation?
Remember the allegation in Woodward's book that the Saudi prince promised Bush that he would drop oil prices near the election to help Bush win in November? Are we seeing the set-up for that scenario now? There is only so far oil prices can drop... so what better way to make the drop seem significant but to artificially hike them now. Kind of like how retail stores often hike prices then slash them "50% off" to make it appear there are significant savings when it's really not the case.

Is that what's going on here? Artificial retail-like hike/slash practices?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 08:04 AM
Response to Original message
1. The analysis I have seen
Edited on Wed May-19-04 08:05 AM by Redbear
indicates that it's a demand issue, not supply.

One example, China is on a major building binge in preparation for looking modern for the 2008 Olympics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 08:05 AM
Response to Original message
2. I thought it was the Drop in value of US dollar
Bush decided not to head off the devalueing dollar

Oil is traded in dollars but it appears it's pricing has been stable when compared to the Euro
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
coltman Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 08:06 AM
Response to Original message
3. could be but...
I can't help but feel we are being enroned with fuel like Cal. was with electrics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 08:06 AM
Response to Original message
4. It's more than that
You are referring only to one OPEC producer. THe others would ahve to go along with a price drop, and that would only affect the spot market for raw crude.

Keep in mind our ability to refine petroleum products has not been at full capacity for some time. We have had fires and other refinery closures. Add to that the need for 22 different flavors of summer blends which takes up refining capacity, and you can see there is as much a bottleneck at the refining end as there is in the production area.

If the 22 states that have emissions control blends could get their act together and reduce the number of blends to 1 or 2, then economies of scale would kick in and prices should go down slightly.

Then there is the competing interest of the Saudis vs. the oil companies. Do you honestly think the oil companies will lower their prices as fast as the spot market goes down? This is profit...They are going to make hay while the sun shines.

JM
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 06:59 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC