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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:24 AM
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Kerry is getting GORED
It's exactly like it was during the campaign in 2000. We get about a 5 second glimpse of Kerry and that's it. No coverage of his rallys,speeches,nothing. Then they get on tv and ask the question: "Who is John Kerry? The country doesn't really know him." Well, DUH.....how can anyone get to know him when they refuse to cover him? The only good thing going on right now is at least they ARE covering the bu$h nazis and all their horrible blunders. :grr:
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:31 AM
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1. Kerry doesn't want to peak too early
...remember Howard Dean?
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:54 AM
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9. So, Team Kerry is telling the whores, "don't put us on TV"?
I doubt it. The pooster is right on. Remember, the media has their "credibility" on the line. They have to validate their shameless shilling of Chimp with a Bush landslide.
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:58 AM
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10. Team Kerry is pretty happy wherever they are right now
...and are giving bush enough rope to hang himself, have you seen the polls lately??

With the election over 5 months away its a little early for the hand-wringing methinks.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:31 AM
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2. and don't forget the favorite inside-the-Beltway pundit line:
"Kerry should be concerned because people haven't warmed up to him, despite the fact that Bush's poll numbers are falling!"

Now, let's review:
Kerry -- who hasn't had major media coverage since the end of Feb., really, is ahead of Bush in nearly every poll.
Bush, the "popular wartime president," as the media loved to call him, is in a freefall, with the highest percentage of Americans thinking that the country is headed in the wrong direction since the question was even asked.
Yet all the pundits love to pretend that people just don't like Kerry, because THEY just don't like Kerry.
How soon before we hear: "I just can't picture myself having a beer with Kerry."
I wish these morons would have their beer with Bush and get it out of their systems BEFORE HE KILLS US ALL!!!
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:42 AM
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6. It is all just like a play
Carefully scripted and given to attractive people to read to us, and it is the duty of the players to make us believe it is real.
They have a powerful tool, control of the TV fantasy land, the truth must come from underground to be herd.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:34 AM
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3. Kerry is doing FINE
Bush is GORING himself...Kerry is saving his pennies to slaughter him as the summer progresses and the debacle..er, election, draws near. Bush is polling at 41%...Kerry is okay.

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:37 AM
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4. Kerry should make ads showing him interacting with people, which he does
very amiably from what I've seen....If they played a couple of this type of ads over and over, that could overcome the media's insistance that he's "not very likeable.".....
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:39 AM
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5. I haven't seen much from Move On lately, either
They had a fundraiser for some ads recently, but I never saw any of them (Kerry left no man behind, Bush just left...)

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Stew225 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:46 AM
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8. The Kerry ad I saw on 60 minutes last night..
featuring his family and war friends is excellent. I suggest that that kind of ad goes a long way toward letting people get those much needed glimpses of "who Kerry is".

I think that, for the most part, joe sixpack is tired of the ads that lambaste the opposition. What this does unconciously, I'm not qualified to say, but based on what I hear it isn't positive.

Kerry should study Air America's positioning/branding posture and then do the diametric opposite. (Please don't offer that it's better than listening to Rush and Sean. I know that)

When it comes down to the nitty gritty, people want to somehow relate with their candidate of choice. That's why Bush has been so popular. He is Joe Sixpack!

It'll be a long time before the populace studies the real issues to the extent to which they can make truly intelligent choices in the voting box. Until that time, marketing is the answer. And there's nothing more effective than a bad commercial, (Air America) at least in successfully promoting that which you're actually against.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:00 AM
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18. I saw a Kerry ad that was good
It was very positive... but, I have not seen much from Move On lately...
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:43 AM
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7. You mean he's going to beat Bush? Yippee!
If the worst thing that could happen to a candidate is that they receive 0.5 million more votes than their opponent, and NOT end up winning due to a SC coup, I say BRING IT ON.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:41 AM
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11. media says clinton book obscure kerry's press, i said
wtf.........you guys dont give kerry any press. clinton wont be obscuring shit
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 09:49 AM
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12. Wait unti after the convention.
At this point, it doesn't matter. The attention span of most voters, and for that matter, their interest in the election, is quite small and fleeting. This election, for most voters, will be all about the incumbant, and Shrub cannot do anything right.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:08 AM
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13. Kerry is kicking ass and taking NAMES. It's clear to EVERYONE that the
rove rhetoric is identical to the same old lame ass lines he whispered about gore, and WE need to LAUGH at them, and point it all out.

We need to defend our man Kerry, who is a brilliant man, and the absolute best choice to run this country like a REAL man and clean up this crap left by bush.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:36 AM
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14. Funny huh? And he is still beating *!
Let Bush hang himself. Kerry is doing fine lying low.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:37 AM
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15. Don't worr y - Kerry is a Bonesman
They really don;t care if he wins as long as we really don;t have a choice...

Who are you voting for - the bonesman or the bonesman?
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:34 AM
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19. Well I'm definately not voting for bu$h!
I support Senator Kerry and I will vote for him. No one is perfect and everyone has their "skeletons" in their closets. Are you voting for bonehead bu$h? Sounds like you're not really a Kerry supporter. :shrug:
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:40 AM
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16. You are correct
When the media decided to do in Dean it was all Kerry all positive all the time.
Now its all turned around.

Proof...

http://www.fair.org/press-releases/kerry-bush.html
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 10:44 AM
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17. It's actually not quite as bad--the Gore-ing went on for two years
Kerry hasn't been getting hit that bad--plus the unified theme hasn't yet been pounded totally home, but it's looking to be coalescing around the 'flip-flop.' Somebody needs to apply that standard to Bush, but it of course will never be done
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 11:48 AM
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20. getting Gored doesn't mean being ignored
it means the press picking up on some false charge and trashing the candidate with that charge at every opportunity. In Gore's case it was "lying".

Notice with Kerry nothing sticks. They went after him for flip flopping. Meanwhile, Bush was saying "stay the course" while Iraq turned into a nightmare. It soon became obvious Bush had to flip flop on Iraq. They stopped calling Kerry a flip flopper.

But my favorite was the lead up buzz to the former Vietnam vets who were going to hold a press conference attacking Kerry. The major focus of the group seemed to be that they were mad at Kerry for saying atrocities happened in Vietnam (Kerry's testimony to Congress in 1972). Then the prisoner abuse photos surfaced. Took the wind out of the sails.

Kerry is doing fine. 50-50 looks bad unless you are an election watcher. Clinton was at 25% at this point in 1992. Same for all other challengers. The number to watch right now (historically) is Bush's approval rating. I heard Chris Matthews say it was at 40%. I've not seen that poll but maybe he has. Bush can only win this if Iraq becomes the land of milk and honey between now and November and the economy is seen to be improving OR if Kerry does/says something incredibly stupid. Less press coverage helps here.

(I HATE HATE HATE "Let American be America" and hope he can do better than that but its not fatal.)
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