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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:41 AM
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"..vouchers actually has its roots in an effort to continue segregation.."
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Vouchers - The Right's Final Answer to Brown
The BLACK Commentator
May 27, 2004
Issue 92

Excerpts:

“The crusade for vouchers actually has its roots in an effort to continue segregation,” said Cynthia Tucker, editorial page editor of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, in a July 7, 2002 column. “By the time of Jimmy Carter's presidency, the parents of segregation academy students were campaigning for tax breaks for private school tuition. They formed the early core of what later became the voucher movement.” "....Racists always find a “freedom” to mask their hatreds. Segregationists in Virginia devised a “freedom of choice” policy in the mid-Fifties to allow white students to transfer out of schools slated for integration. When Prince Edward County whites finally exhausted their legal bag of tricks in 1959, they shut the public schools down and set up a foundation to support the education of whites.

In 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court cracked down on backdoor subsidies to segregated private schools in Mississippi. The court ruled, in Norwood v. Harrison, that “free textbooks, like tuition grants directed to students in private schools, are a form of tangible financial assistance benefiting the schools themselves, and the State's constitutional obligation requires it to avoid not only operating the old dual system of racially segregated schools but also providing tangible aid to schools that practice racial or other invidious discrimination.”

In their review of the racist roots of voucher politics, People for the American Way note that President Nixon toyed with the idea of federal aid to parochial schools – “parochiad” – in 1971. Four years later, the far-right Heritage Foundation made its first foray into vouchers, sponsoring a forum on the subject. But it was not until the Reaganites came to power in Washington that the Heritage Foundation proposed attaching vouchers to federal education legislation, in 1981. The problem was, vouchers were still firmly (and correctly) associated with die-hard segregationists. Memories of white “massive resistance” to integration remained fresh, especially among Blacks, who had never demanded vouchers – not even once in all of the tens of thousands of demonstrations over the previous three decades.

Former Reagan Education Secretary William Bennett understood what was missing from the voucher polistryitical hem: minorities. If visible elements of the Black and Latino community could be ensnared in what was then a lily-white scheme, then the Right’s dream of a universal vouchers system to subsidize general privatization of education, might become a practical political project. More urgently, Bennett and other rightwing strategists saw that vouchers had the potential to drive a wedge between Blacks and teachers unions, cracking the Democratic Party coalition. In 1988, Bennett urged the Catholic Church to “seek out the poor, the disadvantaged…and take them in, educate them, and then ask society for fair recompense for your efforts” – vouchers. The game was on.

The Heritage Foundation was soon joined in voucher agitation by the young, hyper-aggressive Bradley Foundation, of Milwaukee. Bradley and its allies steamrolled through the Wisconsin legislature a voucher program for Milwaukee’s schools, and spent millions of dollars to buy a Black constituency to support it. In 2000, the Bradley, Heritage and Walton Family Foundations unveiled their African American front group: the Black Alliance for Educational Options (BAEO), whose job is to put a Black face on a rich, white man’s creation.

http://www.blackcommentator.com/92/92_cover_vouchers.html
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:53 AM
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1. That's a great website.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 07:27 AM
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2. It IS a great site...
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 07:27 AM by Q
...and Democrats should pay closer attention before they support the DLC's voucher programs.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 07:32 AM
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4. No argument from me.. We just hashed this topic out
last week. Hopefully more folks on this site now understand why the voucher system cannot work in this country.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1675688
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 07:51 AM
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6. The DLC suggests voucher programs????
Please enlighten me a little on this topic, if you don't mind.

I believe the DLC is a poison pill in our party and I thought I was pretty well versed in most of their positions, but this one escaped my notice!

I cannot bring myself to worm thru their site just now, it raises my blood pressure to unacceptable levels.
Can you just give me a brief overview of what they propagate?

Thanks!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 07:27 AM
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3. Thanks for the link. It's an interesting perspective.
The other thing you can expect to see segregated is medical plans. I hear doctors are now considering limiting their practices to select patients. It sounds like a good thing, but I forsee the selectivity getting extreme. For example, only people of a certain religion or philosophical background. The division of our country does seem to be headed in that direction.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 07:42 AM
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5. I care less about the roots of vouchers...
than the results. The Milwaukee program (over 100,00 students have enrolled, with enormous parental approval of the program) shows me that competition works in education as it works in everything else. A monopoly will, by its very nature/internal logic, almost always disappoint.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 07:57 AM
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7. Milwaukee is a city. Vouchers don't work in the country.
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:03 AM
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9. the competition model is inappropriate for education
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 08:10 AM by klyon
What we need to look at is the unequal funding between rich neighborhood schools and poor neighborhood schools.

All our children should have the same opportunities for education, no matter if their family makes $10,000 or $500,000. In fact we should probably spend more on the poor because the rich can donate which the poor can not. Some poor children do not have pencils, food or educated parents to help and encourage them too learn. The gap is so huge I don't know where we should begin and vouchers is a smoke screen used as a distraction. The rich have been trying for decades to get out of their responsibility to educate other peoples children.

What kind of society do we have if most of our people can not think or read?

KL
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:05 AM
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11. Do you have any studies showing the voucher students
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 08:05 AM by dsc
are doing better? We have vouchers in Cleveland and over and over again study after study shows either the kids are doing the same or the public school is doing better.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:42 AM
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12. Competition = winners + losers
Are you saying that it's all right for some schools to "fail," so that others can "win"? Students aren't a bottom line; they're national assets.

Charter schools in Arizona are the "compromise" between vouchers and rational funding of public education. The greater portion of the charter schools in this state are failing. Their students consistently have lower standardized test scores, not because the schools are inherently bad, but because they draw the students who aren't succeeding in the public schools and whose parents think the failure is the schools' fault, when really the causes lie elsewhere.

Vouchers, charter schools, home schooling: they're all band-aid attempts to hide the festering sore that is a fundamental lack of social justice in this country. And the media hypes the success stories while utterly ignoring all the many failures.


Tansy Gold, proponent of FREE QUALITY PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR ALL
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:01 AM
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8. Thanks, Q. Even the racists know we know what they're trying to do.
No one's fooled.

No need to let them try to argue about it, either. It's too obvious, has always been completely obvious from the moment it was dropped like a stink bomb on the American taxpayers.

There's really no way to successfully conceal the ugly sickness in our right-wing seperatists, no matter how they try to rethink it to get the results they crave.
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 08:05 AM
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10. School vouchers are bad for public and private schools
The obvious thing is that you get back into the Southern segregation era of supporting two schools systems seperate and unequal.

Why is it unequal? Because private schools can choose who they do and do not take.

Its a self-fulfilling prophecy of public school doom when they have to compete with schools that pick and choose their students.

It inherently implies less money to the public school system. Sure money is not the only factor in a good school system but schools with more money like those in the Northern VA burbs always do better than those in the less affluent rural areas of VA. Sure, freepers will always pull the Washington DC school system as their great exception in terms of money per student and the translation of money to success. But one exception does not make the rule.

In addition, it is bad for private schools because it puts them on the tit and the mercy of public funding. Eventually this will mean regulating "private" schools to the point of them being selective public schools and destroying the core of what makes them private. Don't believe me? Listen all it takes is a couple of bad schools and a few 60 minute style exposes and boom regulations and rules will soon follow.

Its just a bad idea that needs to die quick.

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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 10:18 AM
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13. ...
...One kick for the morning people. Good article. I'll vouch for it.
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