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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 10:38 AM
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It's fear vs ????.....
When you think about it, the entire Repub campaign is based on fear. Of course, there are lies and negative ads, etc, but the bottom line is that even those are to promote the "fear" agenda.

Sometimes history does seem to repeat itself. The Repubs tried fear once before on this nation. Remember FDR? The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. We are back at that point once again. George W Bush and the Repubs are pushing fear down our throats. We need a message to counter "fear".

Surely our leaders can come up with something to counter this destructive and paranoid campaign of Bush and the Repubs? Surely they can offer a positive agenda with hope for the future? First thing they need to do is to break away from the bonds of fear that the Bush regime has shackled Americans with and to speak bravely, with courage and conviction, about our future and our place in the world. We will not hide in our closets, worrying about unseen enemies, and withering away ou lives in the paranoid world that the Republicans would have us live...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 10:51 AM
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1. Fantastic point
I'd love to see FDR's quote become our rally cry once more. What I wouldn't give to see FDR in office once again!!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 10:55 AM
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2. Kucinich's campaign has been based on hope.
Shame he's not tall enough or good looking enough or bland and non-rocking-the-boat enough for (expletive deleted) americans.

:grr:
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:07 AM
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4. Beware of the "holier than thou" attitude.
It's becoming tiresome. Accept the fact that many, many people do not agree with you. It's the mature thing to do. (No expletives needed.)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:18 AM
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6. Holier? No, just smarter.
I'm just saying that the OP is right, and that it's frankly disgusting that Americans are so shallow and gullible.

Yeah, I'm really ashamed to be so frank about my ability to recognize that the conventional-wisdom-koolaid-drinking masses are mostly rubes fooled by snake oil salespersons pretending to be pundits and journalists.

So sorry if I 'tired' you.

:eyes:
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:27 AM
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9. Perhaps I took your post the wrong way.
If so, I appologise. I took it to say that those not suporting Kucinich ( a man I hold in high regard )are shallow expletive deleted people who base our opinions on looks, height or lack of zealousness. I perceive an attitude among Dennis' supporters that if only everyone would see the light and come to his side then all would be well with the world. I am quite willing to admit the pssibility that my perception is flawed.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:31 AM
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10. Not exactly
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 11:32 AM by redqueen
More like - 'look what all our shallowness has wrought' - along those lines. I can see how you'd take it the other way, but IMO that's the more defensive reaction to my statement.

I probably chose my words poorly. :)
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:23 PM
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12. Let's shake on it.
Woof offers hand.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 02:55 PM
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16. Done deal.
Redqueen shakes it. :)
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:27 PM
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14. Yes, hope is so controversial. I'm gonna hope...get over it.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:02 AM
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3. FDR: the only thing we have to fear is fear itself
fed2dneck: the only thing we have to fear is Bush himself!
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:11 AM
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5. unfortunately fear has been shown to be...
the prime motivator of human beings. fear trumps all aspirations-hope, peace, love, honor, respect. fear of the unknown has been the mainstay of religion since the dawn of man. fear can make a voter choose an outcome that is against his own self-interests. only truth can defeat fear, and our american society grows further from the truth every day.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:28 PM
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15. The only thing we have to fear is the Bush Administration.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:19 AM
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7. the opposite of fear is love . . .
more than just a saying, this is something many people believe to be true . . . in fact, they say, love and fear are the only two real emotions human beings are capable of . . . all positive feelings derive from the former, all negative feelings (e.g. hate) from the latter . . . where one resides, the other cannot exist . . . and vice versa . . .

maybe it's time to start organizing public discourse around love . . . love of one another, and of Earth we inhabit together . . . love leads to compassion, which might be defined as love put into action . . . love expressed politically, if you will . . . policies flowing from love and compassion are life-affirming . . . policies flowing from fear are life-destroying . . . building a compassionate civilization with love as a guiding principle would seem to me to be a unifying goal that people of all political and religious persuasions could buy into . . .

of course, it would take a courageous politician to introduce such a concept into the public discourse . . . Dennis Kucinich has come the closest, and look where it got him . . . doesn't mean he's not right, though . . .

even if it won't fly as a campaign theme, this might make a good topic for Kerry's inaugural address . . .
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:50 AM
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11. "love" sounds so "liberal"...
:) thought-provoking. Thanks , OBS..
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:23 AM
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8. It's fear vs.
two factions; confusion & hope. Maybe a third for some "me too" dems on the current foreign policy course-jealousy of republican power.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:26 PM
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13. Hope, silly. That's the opposite of fear.
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