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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:31 PM
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Venezuela: Kerry's Done It Again!
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 04:40 PM by kalian
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1186

Dear Candidate Kerry:
Political campaigns are difficult. The upcoming 2004 presidential elections in the United States are critical for the Democratic Party. Those opposed to the war in Iraq and the interventionist foreign policy of the Bush administration consider Bush's removal from power as a matter of life and death, literally. Progressives, liberals, democrats and moderates have rallied around campaigns to ensure President Bush does not return to the White House for a second term. Conscious citizens are well aware that a cross section of voters needs to support one candidate to oppose Bush in a unified manner, to avoid the disaster of the 2000 elections, which resulted from a divide in constituents seeking a true alternative to the US political landscape.
Mr. Kerry, the Democratic National Convention has not taken place and you have not yet been selected as the Democratic Candidate for the 2004 presidential elections. Of course, you are the frontrunner, but you, more than most, understand the nature of politics and are well aware that things can change dramatically at the drop of a hat. After your first Statement on Venezuela a couple of months ago, I pondered over the reasons behind such blatant inaccuracies and political pandering. Many came to your defense claiming it was your advisors, not you, who had written and made public the statement. Then, I watched you on the Univisión channel, to my horror, claiming that President Chávez of Venezuela was on the path to becoming a dictator. After that interview on Univisión, it became clear that you truly felt (as true as politicians can feel) that President Chávez's view of democracy was different than yours.
Even so, your statements were written off as mere dirty campaign politics. For some reason, you think that making extreme statements against President Chávez and taking sides in Venezuela's polarized politics will garner you votes from the anti-Chávez and anti-Castro community in South Florida. At the same time, it is difficult to believe that you could be so naive as to truly think that Jeb Bush's state would go to you if you make it to the 2004 elections.
So, where does that leave your position on Venezuela? Your recent statement on the Referendum Process in Venezuela (May 27, 2004) is a true eye-opener. Mr. Kerry, you have successfully aligned yourself with the stance of the Bush Administration with respect to Venezuela and foreign policy in general. Not only do you once again expose your clear lack of knowledge of Venezuela's politics, Constitution and history, but you make such inaccurate statements and judgments that your capacity as a potential head of state is undermined. The only answer to why you would make such outrageous claims as stating that President Chávez has "undermined the constitution and used his Bolivarian Circles to repress peaceful dissent?" is that you care nothing about Venezuela and have chosen to use it as a stepping-stone to the presidency. You obviously believe that by berating the Bush Administration for not being tougher on Chávez, you will appear as a true democrat, a crusader for democracy. While chastising the Bush Administration for its messy war in Iraq, you attempt to use Venezuela to evidence some sort of "double standard" it has been playing.


...more...

Scathing...

On edit: link added...
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:34 PM
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1. Link? (n/t)
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:35 PM
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2. Kicking n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:38 PM
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3. Anyone who expects a sea change from Kerry
ESPECIALLY during the campaign, had best set their expectations WAY lower.

:(
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:40 PM
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4. Precisely my arguement...
I have some SERIOUS doubts about Kerry...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:43 PM
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6. As well you should
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 04:44 PM by redqueen
You do not need me to remind you that the price of liberty is eternal viligance...

And that's no matter which party is in control of what.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 05:50 PM
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20. So how do I get this Kucinich logo.
The "I Stand With Dennis.." one. Is it one of the avatars here or is there another way to get that?
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:11 PM
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25. I have some SERIOUS doubts about Bush.
...and that means Im voting for Kerry. Not Nader or some other lost-cause minor party or something like that.....Im voting for KERRY.

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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:41 PM
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5. Well
My expectations for Kerry can't get much lower.


:(

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:44 PM
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7. Our expectations now should be that he beats bush
all else at this point would be gravy, IMO.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:46 PM
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8. I reluctantly agree with you.
But the progressive side of my wishes we had another candidate.
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:49 PM
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9. ditto
It would hurt me to vote for him, but I think of it as a vote against *W.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:52 PM
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10. Glad to see that all we lefty liberals agree
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 04:52 PM by redqueen
First things first - put out the fire, THEN remodel. :D
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 05:11 PM
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12. That's a GREAT slogan!
...put out the fire, THEN remodel!

I'm not interested in being convinced that Kerry's a good candidate, he's just another imperialist -- as the mainstream Dems have ALWAYS been.

All he is to me is a tool, the ONLY tool we have at hand to get the bush* cabal out of the White House. The rot and corruption at the core of our government will remain, but getting rid of bush* will at least slow down some of the worst of it -- at least I'm hoping this will be the case.

We have a HUGE task before us. Kerry isn't the solution, he's just less of a problem since he's not an out and out psychopath like the bushies.

Yeah, put out the fire first, then roll your up sleeves and gird your loins for the LONG HAUL.

sw
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 05:23 PM
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16. Thank Arianna!
Isn't it great? I heard her say this on Jon Stewart's show and thought she hit the nail on the head with that one!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:05 PM
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21. I'll thank you both!
Arianna for saying it, and YOU for posting it! :toast:

It puts very succinctly the very thing I've been trying to express to other lefties/progressives who are balking at voting for Kerry. (With good reason, and I totally sympathize -- BUT...!)

One thing that the bush* regime has brought into stark relief is the fact of how far our government has gone from being anything even remotely resembling a government by, for, and of, the People. This didn't just happen in 2001, things have been degenerating for a LOOOOOOONG time.

Nor will this situation be changed in one presidential election, no matter WHO the Dem candidate happened to be. It really should be irrelevant that Kerry just ain't all that. The ONE thing he ain't is bush*, and that should be our single biggest immediate priorty.

It's a starting point, nothing more. As I said, the work of building a progressive America is a long haul committment.

sw

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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:07 PM
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22. YES! n/t
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:10 PM
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24. LOL!
Excellent way of describing it.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 04:54 PM
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11. I hope he finds out how some feel.
Right now he's Bush3.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 05:14 PM
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13. you may have serious doubts about Kerry
but you like bush???????????????



come on.

Kerry is the man to beat BUSH and that is our #1 priority.


we can NOT afford a new 4 years of the asshole in the oval office
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 05:31 PM
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18. Who the HELL said I LIKED Bush...?
what the hell are you implying? :mad:
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 05:16 PM
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14. This tool charges Kerry with being ignorant about Venezuela's politics
Edited on Tue Jun-01-04 05:20 PM by Bombtrack
While displaying an utterly baseless and idiotic pro-defeatist paranoid claims about Florida's politics.

"At the same time, it is difficult to believe that you could be so naive as to truly think that Jeb Bush's state would go to you if you make it to the 2004 elections."

He'd fit in well with that demonsterably annoying cadre at DU who continue to insist the same thing despite being continuously exposed as having no logic to back up their claims. The fix is not in in Florida more than any other swing state as far as this jackass or any other knows.

This Chavista also doesn't know whether Kerry has an alterior motive for his statements much less what they are and you know what neither does anyone here unless John Kerry and his senior staff post here. It would be nice if people stopped pretending they were frigging psychic
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 05:17 PM
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15. i`ll hold my nose
and vote for kerry,it`s anyone but bush. that in my opinion is really sad we really don`t have a canidate who has a fresh out look on the world...oh well, i guess he`s better than the other skull boy running for president....
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 05:24 PM
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17. Yay you!
It's so important that we convince anyone with any doubts whatsoever to hold off on taking the counsel of their fears until AFTER we've ousted the most dangerous, irresponsible, corrupt, thoughtless, reckless, incompetent... well I could go on all day, but I hope you get my point. :)
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 05:48 PM
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19. Well there are two candidates still in the race.
The delegates could always switch. People might get mad. But Kerry is making everyone mad.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 06:09 PM
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23. Get angrier
the angrier you are when you vote Kerry, the more determined you will be to do everything you can to have a better choice the next time around.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 09:27 PM
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26. I want rational, enthusiastic, people oriented sincerity.
I don't want to listen to old senatorial say nothing political fence sitting don't offend anyone rhetoric. I don't want threatening imperialistic sounding 'I'll tell you how you should act and think so that you can continue to receive U.S. aid and bask in the favors our our U.S. and European corporations, especially the oil ones' rhetoric.

I don't want to rely on ABB. I want to be an enthusiastic supporter and defender. In the case of Venezuela, he's offended a lot of us. It's bombastic, incriminating, accusatory, and right wing partisan. Is he really thinking of the people of Venezuela? What does he know that we don't know? What's driving him on Venezuela? If we're going to have an oil company president, I'm not interested.

I want to be able to go out and talk up the canndidate, wear his name on my sleeve, feel driven as I would for Wellstone.

From an Independent who is a Wellstone Democrat.

Can't Kerry regain what he had in the 70's?
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