If Bush chooses McCain as VP, are we dead in the water?

[revree]

I mean, MCCAIN IS A REPUBLICAN AND WILL ACT LIKE ONE AS VP. Shouldn't we Dems be STICKING TOGETHER AND VOTING DEMOCRAT???

I heard Bush/McCain will slaughter Kerry/?. Do you agree?

[Burma Jones]

1. Slaughter - No, swing enough votes to win - Yes

I seriously doubt McCain would accept the VP nod.

Guiliani is a better bet for a replacement VP than McCain and would do just as much damage to us Dems.

[madmax]

2. Never mind, :-)

[revree]

3. I do not like or trust McCain

He is, after all, a Republican. And anti-choice...

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. But would Cheney give up his position?

He'd still be in power from an undisclosed location, but maybe he likes his current title?

[demnan]

5. They'll have to pry Cheney out of there

by his cold dead hands.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

9. exactly

Folks, Cheney will get rid of * at the top of the ticket before quitting the VP spot. Let's remember where the power really lies.
And I'm sure MacCain would NEVER agree to be on any ticket with the guy who's been smearing him for years.

[SlingBlade]

6. Not likely

We would be more likely to hear Bush admit he lied to the World about Iraq and just about everything else that has come from this Administration.
If anything, We are seeing other elements , Including McCain distancing themselves from this Neo-Con group, They can clearly see the damage it has done to the reputations of those who have supported them.

See Colin Powell .....

[Killarney]

7. Bush/McCain would win. No doubt. But neither of them would do it.

They hate each other.

It's going to be Bush/Guiliani, IMO. Cheney will drop out in August for heart shit.

[leesa]

13. Why do you even say that? The media told you so?

Bush is despised and McCain has kowtowed to every whim of Bush's showing appalling spinelessness.

[Killarney]

15. Try reading.

Yes, McCain is a Republican and therefore "campaigning" for Bush. But, it is obvious to anyone that reads his statements or watches his interviews that he has reservations and personal issues with the man. He voices criticism of him and his administration so often that his own party has disavowed him. Speaker Hastert told a reporter that he had never heard of McCain and that McCain wasn't a Republican.

Currently (this week) McCain is one of only four Republican senators that is battling against Bush right now over the budget and the tax cut vs deficit issue. He is voting against Bush's wishes.

McCain was the only Republican to seriously question Rumsfeld during the commission on Abu Gharib.

I could go on and on. You are wrong. McCain has not "kowtowed" to Bush's every whim. Check out his voting record.

Bush would NEVER choose McCain. McCain is a thorn in his side.

If he dumps Cheney, he's going to go with someone like Guiliani.

[Frodo]

8. No, not even close.

There are more republicans who would drop off of supporting thier ticked then there are Democrats who would join in support.

McCain has a big chunk of the center, but much of the right hates him.

[On the Road]

10. McCain as VP Candidate Would Win the Election

What I would be worried about is McCain's influence within the cabinet -- we're seeing now the effect of a powerful VP. McCain is quite the warrior -- he proposed a massive ground invasion in Kosovo.

And of course, the possibility that Kerry would die or be impeached and McCain would become president. But I don't expect it to happen either.

[bigfire]

11. Bush/Anyone is a Losing Ticket

Bush/Cheney, Bush/Giuliani, Bush/McCain, even Bush/Ghandi would be a losing ticket. The voters Dubya has alienated aren't going to come back to him just because he picks a different VP.

I have to admit I used to like McCain. If the Republicans were going to run the White House from 2001 to 2005 anyway, McCain should have been president. But, like Colin Powell, McCain has been thoroghly co-opted by the Bushoisie. His time has come and gone.

[newyawker99]

22. Hi bigfire!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[leesa]

12. Ridiculous. But nice try.

[bushisanidiot]

14. After What AWOL Did to McCAin and his family I don't see McCain

running on any ticket with president shitferbrains. It would probably destroy his political career (and all credibility with McCain's base).

[DinahMoeHum]

16. Replacing Cheney at this point will indicate lack of confidence

in the GOP ticket as it is. * does not want to give away signs that he lacks confidence. He's too proud to admit it.


:kick:

[agingdem]

17. Remember...

McCain hates Bush...the garbage the Bushies threw at MCCain during the 2000 primary has not been forgotten. Cheney isn't going anywhere, however, if Cheney should be forced out (re: Spiro Agnew) then Rudy get the nod. The problem with Rudy is his pre 9/11 stature.

[arwalden]

18. We Should Be Voting Democrat-IC... And McCain Won't Be Anyone's VP Choice

[rooboy]

19. I doubt McCain would ever volunteer to work with Bush/Rove. n/t

[peacetalksforall]

20. Maybe dead in the water, but why would McCain say yes?

If you could even perceive that he would say yes to Bush, then noone should have any right, excuse, or rational to even think that Kerry would choose him.

If he said yes, then you can blow the idea that he has any decency.

I absolutely wouldn't want him on a Dem ticket, but I can't see McCain playing Halliburton, Bechtel, Brown Root Kellogg, Titan, Enron games as Cheney is doing.

[LeahMira]

21. Not going to happen...

I heard Bush/McCain will slaughter Kerry

Cheney is vital to the PNAC plans for the country. Without him as Vice-President, the PNAC crew have a lot less influence and power. They have to be monolithic to go forward.

McCain is not the person who could work well with Bush or with the PNAC bunch. He would say something, and people would listen. The PNAC plans can only carry forward with a certain amount of secrecy because if the average American heard their plans laid out in clear language, the average American would not buy into those plans. Some, perhaps, but not the entire package.

I'd like to see McCain in some position of influence in any administration, but he is definitely a Republican in the better sense of the word, and he's probably not about to let go of the things he believes in... which is good.

[Sinistrous]

23. Running McCain as VP would certainly explain all the nonsense talk

about a Kerry/McCain ticket. The background noise would be saying that McCain is so wonderful that even Kerry was considering him -- remember when MSNBCFoxCNNCBSABC told you so? Sure you do.

(Gee, I wonder who really started the Kerry/McCain bullshit?)

[Dulcinea]

24. Not gonna happen.

Neither McCain nor Giuliani will be on the ticket.

McCain & Bush don't like each other, plus McCain's treatment by the Bushies in 2000 (remember the comments about his "illegitimate black child," who's really his adopted Asian daughter?) hasn't been forgotten.

And, Rudy's pro-choice, Catholic, divorced & has too much baggage for the fundies to ever accept him.

Most importantly, both men would far outshine Boy George, & he'd never tolerate that. He MUST be the center of attention. Neither one would be content to play second fiddle to that nincompoop.

And, let's not forget, Cheney's the REAL President!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

25. McCain is a partisan shill! He is PURE SWINE!!!

I will NEVER vote for that S.O.B!!!

McCain = Evil!!!

He still supports * even after * smeared his family!!!

McCain :puke:

[Snellius]

26. How about a Bush/Nader ticket?

Since we're talking science fiction ... It would be like that movie Incredible Two-Headed Transplant with one head saying "Yes yes" while the other head is protesting "No no".

[shoelace414]

27. VP Nod

Why would McCain take the VP spot for anybody? he doesn't need to hitch his wagon to anyone, he is loved by the masses. the 2008 republican nomination is his. why would he give it up? Powell used to be loved by the masses.. but many people lost confidence in him because of his UN WMD address. Why would McCain or Gullaini take the chance of being screwed by the neo-cons like that?

[Carolina]

28. Cheney's departure

under any circumstances aside from poorer cardiac health and death is BAD news for the administration. It would likely be akin to Agnew's stepping down from Tricky Dick's team which was the beginning of the END for them all. To quote from an old line during the Nixon era: you don't change Dicks in the middle of a screw.

Anyway, McCain likes the spotlight too much to play a quiet second fiddle to Bush. He may be repuke at heart (anti-choice, pro-Iraq war, etc.) but he likes being the maverick when it suits him so that he can get that good ole media lovin' he craves.

Anyway a Bush-McCain or a Bush-Guiliani ticket is not necessarily a shoe-in. Much depends on Kerry's astute choice of a VP, the continuing downward spiral in Iraq, the economy, you name it.

[Cleita]

29. I think McCain would slash his wrists before aligning himself

with BushCo. Even though he backs Bush, sort of, to appear in solidarity with the RNC, he won't help Bush to be reelected IMHO.

[ewagner]

30. Why it won't happen: My Opinion

The modus operandi of the Bush Administration is to attack when cornered. No matter how fruitless the attack, no matter how ill-advised, they will alway attack. (Sort of like Animal House "one last, senseless act of defiance".) They do this because they have absolutely nothing to lose. If they concede, they've lost, if they attack, there is some (small) chance of winning.

The only thing saving them from being run out of Washington on a rail, is their shear arrogance. They can take the most obvious disaster and turn it into an attack against their (and by extension, America's) enemies. They'll stick with Cheney because it's an attack mode: IN YOUR FACE!

[kentuck]

31. There are some right-wingers that hate McCain....

and are just looking for a reason not to vote for Bush. That would be it. That would be good for Democrats. But it ain't gonna happen. Bush ain't that flexible. :)