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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:41 PM
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Bush administration comparing Iraq war to WW II!
Junior is trying over and over again for this, Personally, I find no comparison. As gas prices get higher and higher, and the solders in Iraq feel more and more insecure, what should we think? Are we supposed to support Bush or our soldiers??
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:44 PM
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1. Bush* family are profiting off Iraq War just as they did in WWII
only comparison I find.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:02 PM
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9. GREAT flash video on bush* blood money from WWII....
and tells the WHOLE story....


just open this link and it should pop right up and play....only takes a minute of your time, and well worth it...

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

thanks to symbolman, an American Patriot....

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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:46 PM
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2. Does this beg the question as to "who are the good guys and who are the
bad guys" in wars of aggression assuming Iraq was not party to the terrorist attacks on US soil and assuming the pre-emptive war against Iraq was fulfillment of a longstanding PNAC plan?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:59 PM
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8. You mean the war in Iraq is not the same as the "war on terrorism"?
But you must believe that...You must.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 04:59 PM
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20. Never, to my dying breath I will believe fulfillment of the PNAC plan
drove this war in the absence of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary and that ain't likely.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:47 PM
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3. Then where is the sacrifice?
Why are the Bush girls backpacking through Europe right now and not
patrolling the streets of Baghdad?

Why are rich people getting huge taxcuts?

Why aren't we rationing gas, oil, rubber and tin?

Why is there no draft?

Why are our factories still making SUV's when they could be making Bradley vehicles and Abrams tanks?

Why is the media still fixated on Kobe, Mark and Martha?

That's not how it worked in World War II.



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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:48 PM
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4. I thought comparisons of Chimpy to Hitler were off limits
But if he's doing it himself, doesn't that give us license to--

What? You're kidding. No? Okay.

Nevermind.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:50 PM
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5. Simply put...
he's an idiot. Is he comparing himself to Roosevelt or Hitler?:shrug:
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:53 PM
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6. The American involvement in WWII was not preemptive
we didn't got into Germany before it invaded Poland. Even though it was apparent that Hitler was going to start a European war the British didn't do anything preemptively either.


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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 02:54 PM
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7. The Chimp has always wanted this....
jealous of his dad's generation for getting to be called "the greatest" the evil Chimp has conspired to create a WWII all for himself, where he gets to be all the Allies rolled into one.

In the Chimp's diseased mind he is Churchill. He is far better than FDR - that lightweight.

The Chimp is also King Richard the Lionhearted, returning victorious from the great Crusades with the flag of Christ held triumphantly aloft, and the heathen enemies' blood beneath his feet.

The Chimp remembers that WWII ended with two "nucular" bombs exploding on our enemy. The Chimp dreams about this at night....
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:06 PM
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10. How dare he--he is delusional--how dare he
I would like to smack his face

Look at this idiot who was AWOL struts

How dare he take this tack-

I know how dare he--NO ONE will challenge or call him on it.

How dare he,this filthy prick of a coward, place himself in the leader ship akin to that of WWII

Look at the asshole strut in front of our young. Look at this idiot stick his cowardly chest out, and his ass out, and his elbows out and his palms backward. Look at this prick'



How dare he foist himself upon us with this image of himself akin to the leaders of WWII
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NeonLX Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:22 PM
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16. The height of arrogance. The depth of stupidity. He's simply delusional.
nt
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:06 PM
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11. his family was aiding hilter.........like Uncle aiding terrorists!!
In the lead up to World War II, the Bush family finance Hitler's rise to power. Bush's grandfather Prescott directly provided loans to Adolph Hitler through Bush-Harriman Bank. Even after Pearl Harbor, they were still doing it and finally were found guilty under the "Trading With The Enemy Act".

In the war on terror, Bush's uncle Jonathan manages Riggs bank, that has been tied to the funding of the 911 hijackers through the Saudi Royal Princess' account, personally managed by Uncle Bush. Arbusto Oil Company in which George Bush got his business start, was funded with an intial $50,000 in the name of George Bush, coming right out of the pocket of Salem Bin Laden. The BCCI bank has had strong ties to both the Bin Ladens and the Bushes. And not to forget Carlyle Group and their close ties to both the Saudi Royal Family (which has funded Bin Laden) and the Bush family.

Yes, there are similarities between Hitler's rise to power, the terrorists from Saudi Arabia, and the Bush family.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:20 PM
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15. here's symbolman's GREAT video on the BFEE funding hitler (link)
and tells the WHOLE story....

title:
"bush* is not a nazi, so stop saying that"

just open this link and it should pop right up and play....only takes a minute of your time, and well worth it...

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:09 PM
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12. actually there is a striking similarity...
in both cases, Bush family members were directly responsible for arming the enemy, supplying the enemy with financing that enabled them to build up their militaries...

Apart from that, though, this is an outrageous insult to all who fought in WWII. And it shows how absolutely, pathetically desperate the Bushies are becoming.

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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:14 PM
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13. Watching him on CNN I grit my teeth.
Bush IS comparing the war in Iraq to WWII! Why? Why not? No one is going to dispute him. All the old WWII veterans are that... old! ready for dying! Why should not he chimp re-write history in a way that makes the present 'push' into Iraq seem just in it's actions?
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:20 PM
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14. Maybe the war on terror is like WWII
but the Iraq occupation sure as hell isn't. The right-wing post referenced below illustrates the way the Right likes to conflate the war on Iraq with the war on terror:
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=7595

The neocons are trying very hard to make Americans believe the following:
1. The war on terror is as vital and worthy a struggle as World War II.
2. The Iraq war is part of the war on terror.
3. Therefore, the Iraq war is as great and worthy a struggle as World War II.

This is absolute crap. Fighting terrorism certainly is important, and we will never win any points by pretending that it isn't. But it's just inaccurate to say it's as important as WWII. WWII was a sprawling, global armed conflict against enemies who were actively trying to kill us and our allies, with hundreds of thousands of American casualties, and many more dead from other countries. Maybe the war on terror will become that big in scale and importance, but it isn't there yet.

Furthermore, the Iraq war's only relation to the war on terror is that it's strengthening the terrorists! Waging war against Saddam Hussein, and subsequently occupying Iraq, have done nothing to make America safe from terrorism.

Finally, to suggest that the war on Iraq is as worthy a cause as WWII is completely idiotic and an insult to the intelligence of Americans--or any human, for that matter. Iraq was not actively trying to kill us or our allies, as everyone now knows. Getting rid of Saddam Hussein is a good thing, but trashing an entire country and creating many new heads for the hydra of terrorism in the process is a terrible thing.
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:25 PM
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17. I read in a post yesterday
that he's been warned by the French not to make that comparison at the D-Day commemoration this summer. Warned.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:37 PM
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18. A better comparison for Bush
http://liberty.hypermart.net/editorials/2004/American_Caligula.htm

"Let them hate so long as they fear." - Roman emperor, Caligula



Caligula, the schizophrenic by-product of an influential Roman family grew up in a wealthy decadent world steeped in generations of treachery and political intrigue. Considered the most morally and ethically corrupt emperor ever to rule the great Roman empire 37-41 A.D. Caligula will always be distinguished in the collective memory of humanity as a murderous monster. History records an individual consumed by his lust for power and a need to satisfy aberrant sexual desires. Caligula took sadistic pleasure in exercising his judgment of life and death over other human beings, executing them slowly whenever possible. He was a powerful and dangerous psychotic with a below average intellect who believed himself to be in communication with the gods, even demanding that he be worshipped as a god. In 39 A.D. Caligula revived the Tiberius treason trials and people suspected of disloyalty were executed or driven to suicide. During his 4-year reign of terror Rome sank quickly into economic disrepair. Caligula's despotic rule ended when the Praetorians stabbed him to death as he left a theater. Since that time 1967 years ago there has not been another political leader of such perverse and incompetent stature to attain control over an empire equal to 37 A.D. Rome, that is, not until now.

“We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth ...” - George W. Bush


George W. Bush, the schizophrenic by-product of an influential American family grew up in a wealthy decadent world steeped in generations of treachery and political intrigue. Considered the most morally and ethically bankrupt President ever to rule the great American empire, Bush will be distinguished prominently in the collective memory of humanity as a greedy and corrupt war monger and war profiteer. For the innocent men women and children on the receiving end of his cluster bombs and uranium-238 weapons he is thought of as a mass murderer and a war criminal. History records the behavior of a predatory sociopath, utterly lacking in empathy, concerned only with power and the satisfaction of his dark desires. He seems oblivious to the human and environmental costs of his regime, and unconcerned with the immense suffering they are causing on the planet.



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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:45 PM
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19. What else could anyone expect from an illiterate boob?
I would love to see a good interviewer nail him on this. I'll bet he would completely fall apart if called upon to cite specific similarities to WWII that had anything other than superficial ties.

I'm sure the threat to us and the world from the "mighty" Al Qaeda forces at least equals the threat from Imperial Japanese Forces and the Wehrmacht. Right Dumbya?
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 05:52 PM
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21. There is NO Comparison and what a slap in the face
to the WWII veterans who fought. That war actually stood for something and Roosevelt knew what he was doing--unlike Bush. And Bush is no Roosevelt. In his dreams...
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