Tenet's resigning, bad for us, part of the neo-con plan

[Selwynn]

Tenet will be blamed for almost everything wrong. Bush will be made to look innocent. Tenet will be blamed for WMD bullcrap, bad intelligence. they will say that every problem in Iraq is Tenet's fault because of bad intel. They will blame the torture scandal on Tenet as well, saying it was CIA people who were to blame for allowing this stuff to happen. Bush will remain a "saint."

It's all strategy people.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

1. Until Tenet's book comes out? <n/t>

[Selwynn]

3. Doubtful..

[KissMyAsscroft]

2. At this point, I don't think it matters..

Bush's negatives are so high and the war is going so poorly, I really think he is toast if this thing doesn't get positive real quick.

[Selwynn]

5. Time for a terrorist attack then...

re-select bush, 04

[Caution]

4. If they make him the scapegoat

The question is "why didnt you fire him?" Are you incompetent as managers? That's Bush's actual job. To hire the right people. If tenet is the wrong guy he should have fired him and he is responsible for tenet's blunders. Kerry: "The buck stops where? Why didn't Bush take action and why did he let this Tenet guy screw up the country?" No matter how the Bush admin spins this, it is bad for Bush.

[Spazito]

6. If that is the neocon plan, it will not work....

the CIA will NOT take the fall for this, the leaks will continue, the Plame case will continue. The military and the CIA want the bush cabal out, there is no question about that, just look at the continuous leaks to major newspapers.

[FleshCartoon]

10. I agree.

I think the CIA will retaliate because of this. Bush is, in effect, scaping one of their own and leaving his little incompetent players in tact.

I think we can expect the shit to hit the fan for Bush real soon now. I can't believe he thought this would help him.

[Edgewater_Joe]

7. So Who's Watching The Store?

Think about it: the CIA has already been feeding Seymour Hirsch on the Abu Ghrab scandal -- and the bulk of those photos still haven't come out.

Now Tenet is shown the door ... and is there ANYbody watching what's going on in Langley? With their ears still burning about getting a lot of the 9/11 and Iraq blame? And with the Plaime investigation still going on?

Who were the last two Presidents to really, REALLY piss off the CIA? Kennedy and Nixon.

Brace yourselves. I think there's a Perfect Storm a-brewin' ...

[AmandaRuth]

8. The Heritage Foundation chimes in on Tenet??

CBS radio news (KIRO Seattle) used a Heritage Foundation spokesman (??) in its story on Tenet just now. THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION??? Now we don't have an agenda to push now, do we? The spin begins. Some pro war reThug congressman was mentioned as a replacement candidate. This stinks to high heaven.

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. They've been saying that all along

There might be a blip of a bump in #S for * because of this, but it won't last long.

[Generator]

11. Well if they try this

It's utter crap. Tenet wasn't fired, he resigned. Shrubscum and all the rest are lauding him for his wonderful service today.

If he's taking the fall, so are they.

There is so much more behind this. As much as some of you think that Bushco is the evil puppet master I think that's laugable. If they were that smart and evil they would have planted WMD in Iraq. Instead it's become their achilles heel.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

12. You're forgetting that Tenet was VERY well-liked within the Agency...

...and that he has some very powerful friends OUTSIDE the agency. No, the leaks will continue, and the NeoCons will continue to take on water.

[TexasSissy]

13. Agree.

[Octafish]

14. Yeh. And the guy who nominated Tenet...Clinton.

These bed-wetters will try to blame everyone but those responsible for 9-11 and the Iraq Invasion: Themselves.

Do you think they've forgotten that Tenet has the goods on them?

[aquart]

15. Their strategy is irrelevant.

It really is.

Now, I know you see them as this huge brilliant strategy machine, but fascist strategies ALWAYS fall down and go boom. Honest. They're economically unsound and delusional in lots of other ways, too.

Right now, inertia is the principle in charge. This snowball is rolling downhill, and it's just going to keep rolling. George will change his story another fifty times. What will it prove? That he's a liar who can't ever take responsibility.

Now, buck up. And stop yelling that the sky is falling. It is. But not on us. Not today.

[PurityOfEssence]

16. Ah, a voice of reason

Thou shalt be crushed for this.

I couldn't agree more: these guys aren't wizards, anymore than Rove is some kind of genius. They're one-note thugs, and they're sloppy at that. Sure, many second-raters who somehow have money LOVE these guys because their short-term thinking guarantees their wealth, but the smart richfolk see these policies as the disasters they are.

Much of the "loyalty" of this administration's foot soldiers is based on the vaunted loyalty of the Bush family. As they jettison more and more people, they look like the self-serving mobsters they truly are.

Tenet went to bat for Junior over the 16 words crap, but they fucked him anyway. The intelligence community knows just how dangerous these people are; we will now see a full-on war between the CIA and the administration, and both will lose.

The theory that the neo-cons and the Texas Teetotaler are always one step ahead of everyone is just not true. It may be a close-run affair, and they may well win the election and usher in an age of terror, but they're far from Moriarty-like masterminds.

[Selwynn]

17. When and where have I yelled that "the sky is falling"

I don't disagree with anything you've said, however the question of the impending "fall" is how soon, and that question matters. Of course EVENTUALLY it will implode in on itself, but how much damage has to be done first before that can happen?

The issue isn't whether or not they are evantually doomed to collapse, the question is, will they find a way to lie cheat and steal the election and give us four more years of living hell that I can't bear to think about, at the expense of real people's lives?

That's the only question I'm concerned about. Better to be accused of claiming the "sky is falling" then going around in absolute overconfidence, which I'm not accusing you of - I'm just saying, I'd rather be the former than the latter.

PS - they don't have to have "brilliant" strategy. All they have to do is have a strategy that gets dumbasses behind them - which they have successfully done, despite some of the most ridiculous and disgusting policies of any administration, for three out of the last four years.