Think It Will End When Bush* Is Replaced? I Suddenly Realize It Will NOT

[matcom]

i spend my time gathering info and passing it on to others. some of you write openly about this misAdministration and its crimes, lies and bungles. some of us educate. some of us educate ourselves.

think this will end in November when Kerry is elected?

i JUST has a realization....

this will NEVER end. i will ALWAYS be focused on exposing this bullshit and i'll bet dollars to donuts that MANY of you will spend YEARS 'investigating' the same.

it will NEVER end for those of us who believe this is the most illegal, corrupt group of thugs to ever rule this roost.

20 years from now, i see myself digging up more truths about this cabal. we will someday use these times as a basis (for something) and will NEVER stop reporting/writing/talking about it.

that is kind of depressing. *sigh*

anyone else feel their 'reporting' fate is somewhat sealed thanks to this PRICK?

[Maat]

1. I think you are right. They never give up on their crazymaking.

n/t

[Cyrano]

2. Overused quote, but

"The price of liberty is eternal vigilance."

[tnlefty]

3. Wonder what all will tie together once the locked up papers of Raygun,

Poppy are finally released? I sure do. Wonder what we'll be weaving together.....

[Joanne98]

5. That's something to look forward too.

It's better than it used to be. The internet makes things go alot faster than they used too.

[tnlefty]

8. I just think that it's a damned shame that these won't be released sooner

so that these recycled thugs are punished when appropriate and the others are never allowed to hold ANY office, serve on a policy advisory board, etc.

[Kanary]

4. Yes, it's depressing.....

until you think of the price the Iraqis are paying for this "most illegal, corrupt group of thugs to ever rule this roost".

The price we are paying is with our time and energy to maintain democracy..... which we were told many years ago was the price.

It's too bad that we mostly gave up on this vigilence years ago........ I hope we have now learned that we can't let go of it. It must continue, and the next generation must carry on after us.

Yeah, it sux.......... but losing democracy is very much worse.

Kanary

[Az]

6. Of course not

A Kerry win is barely even a victory in this battle. The right has coopted the medium in which ideas are introduced to the people. The left is silent. And the Democratic leadership is fleeing into the arms of the corporations. Over? We haven't even begun the fight.

[Karenina]

12. The *dimwit dauphin

is no more than a throwaway flyer under the windshield wiper...

[loudsue]

13. I'm w/ you, AZ.....

The "revolution" of the 60's & 70's might have helped kick Nixon out of office, but the dragon had more than one head....we didn't kill the root problem. We all declared "the war over", and went on about disco dancing.

We now realize that this is a far more insidious problem -- and it will NEVER completely go away. The forces of greed will never give up, and criminals will always arise who have no morals or ethics. We have to make sure they NEVER get into positions of power. We have to make sure that all who DO get into positions of power hold the will of the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE (NOT corporations) as their first priority, and to serve and protect THE PEOPLE.

We also need to get the press out of the hands of a few corporatist/fascists. We need to get REAL and superior education for all the people. And MOSTLY, we need to get verifiable paper ballots for elections, and have elections audited as strictly as any bank is ever audited.

You're right: "We haven't even begun the fight."

:kick:

[belle]

19. Yes. Better to realize that now: that way we have a chance.

[ThoughtCriminal]

7. Topics for 22nd Century Historians

Four decades and we still argue about the Kennedy assasination.

We had the Whitehouse and DOJ for 8 years, but was there any serious investigation of Iran/Contra or October Surprise? No. And we ended up with the same gang again.

History is littered with unsolved crimes.

[DemBones DemBones]

17. Speaking of the Kennedy assassination. . .

particularly, the second Kennedy assassination, here's a book with an interesting new angle:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=600004#top

Maybe in 100 years, the truth of it all will come out. I just hope that if there is an afterlife, we get to find out how all the big stories played out.

[never cry wolf]

9. You are correct

Hopefully you mean uncovering the truth on these guys will never end, not that they will once again take their act underground only to re-emerge at a later date.

Just look at the myriad of books out there now on the subject of this admins corruption, I could not read all of those unless I took a 6 month sabattical, and bt then there'd be dozens more out. AND, this is all while the most secretive admin in history is IN power.

When they are out of power, and people start talking and papers come out and trials start and....

What is out there now is just the tip of the iceberg, the depth of the evil may very well take lifetimes to unravel.

[Piperay]

10. NO absolutely not

the evil doers and their evildoing will never end. This is a battle we (the Democratic party and all those against the evilones) will fight for the rest of our lives and our children's children's lives. :-(

[xxqqqzme]

11. the biggest hurdle

I see R all the policy changes enacted by 'Executive Order'. squatter has drastically changed policy, most disasterously in environmental matters, w/ the stroke of a pen. All this damage will take years 2 reverse. By the time the damage is identified, there will B an accumulation of 4 or 5 years of misdirection. Then the Herculean task rears its head in re-directing the massive bureaucracy following the bad policy. It will takes YEARS 2 undo what the rat bastard has signed is name to as pResident.

[hippiegranny]

14. aside from trying to sort out all the criminal activity

we will also have to be very very aware of the attacks that surely will begin immediately on President Kerry. That alone will take enormous effort. We saw what happened when we relaxed our guards under Clinton.

[PatGund]

18. Remember

We first saw professionally printed "Impeach Clinton" signs the very night that Clinton defeated Bushpop. (A batch of the "Young Republicans" were showing them off in Election Central here in San Diego that night. Makes me wonder where they got them. And, of course, Clinton never had a "Honeymoon" period, but was under attack from day one).

My guess is that you'll start to see the "Impeach Kerry" signs the night of November 2nd after Bushspawn gives his pouting whining concession speech to Kerry. November 3rd, you'll see professionally printed bumper stickers as well. In otherwords, the attacks will start ASAP.

Wonder if the GOP will try to position Jebbie for the 2008 election like Jerry Falwell wanted, (he wanted Jebbie to succeed his brother that year), or if they'll decide Kerry's unbeatable that year and position Jebbie for the 2012 election.

[maggrwaggr]

15. It's why they ALL need to be in JAIL.

They are gangsters. They are an organized crime cabal.

They need to be in jail, they need to be in solitary cells where they can't interact, and they need to have all communication cut off to the outside world.

They are dangerous people and they are powerful. Voting them out of office will only let them regroup.

They'll even get more rich because they'll all dive into the private sector.

[radwriter0555]

16. Your research must have lead you to realize that the gang involved in

all of this crime and corruption is a SMALL one... IT centers around several key individuals; Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. Bush, yes to some extent, but more than anything, he's the pinnochio boy here; the stooge. He's the last one they have who could be president. Any of the freak they offer up is a total loser. Frist? Ridge? oh Hell no. Jeb? NOT EVEN CLOSE, far too scandalous.

They played their cards on BUSH, and this is their end game. They're going to cash in while they can, rake in the profits and settle down for a long winter's nap.

[prolesunited]

20. Didn't start with him

and it certainly won't end with him. Just look at the long history of his cohorts. They hated Clinton so much because he interrupted their game plan. These past few years have been a realization of so many of their dreams.

What are we left with to put the pieces back together? The surplus is gone and we are in more debt than ever before. They have destroyed in three years what had taken decades to create.

[JanMichael]

21. I've felt this way for quite some time. It's hardly irrational.

They've been rotting the core of America, and the World, for decades; Kerry winning won't end that.

However as information sharing, via the web, increases I believe that sooner or later enough people will eventually say, "No More", and they will be ended.