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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:39 PM
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Nightline on Tenet.....let the whitewash flow over us starting at 12:04 E
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 11:02 PM by buycitgo
just wait

what a joke this has become already

Tenet is guilty of EVERYTHING....911/WMDs/psoriasis/West Nile

just watch

laying the foundation for all those reports putting it all at CIA's doorstep

EDIT at midnight:

starting momentarily...news over now


fricking HOCKEY!!

fricking hoseheads

this better NOT be a total whitewash
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:39 PM
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1. Where are your sources?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:47 PM
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7. sources for what?
I watched/listened to a pound of shows today/tonight, and they're ALL lining up against CIA/Tenet

it's ridiculous

with Turner's exception, I haven't seen anything to disabuse myself of that proposition

feel free to tell me you've seen/heard/read mainstream dissent

I'll be ecstatic to be proven wrong

earlier euphoria has subsided into normal pessimism

breaking dam seems to be getting shoveled back up by the media hoes
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:40 PM
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2. Richard Clarke may be on, according to earlier DU prediction
hope so......aren't he and Wilson pals?

just starting to read Clarke's book

whoever here said the first chapter is compelling was understating the case

reads better than any thriller I can think of....mainly cause it's fricking REAL
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:43 PM
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4. I said that.
I am not sure if others did. The first chapter is amazing.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:50 PM
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8. really......going to try to read lots of it tomorrow
he's not that facile a writer, but how on earth could one ask for more gutwrenching subject matter

only a simp like dumbo could botch that one up

one thing.....reminds me....he paints a picture of chimpo wanting to get back to DC ASAP

disappointing to read that part....the only downer so far
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:41 PM
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3. Whatever you say.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:44 PM
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5. what?
did you see Pincus and Isikoff on Aaron Brown?

sounded like they were reading the junta's defense brief

completely blamed it on Tenet/CIA

no mention of end use/interpretation

OR the FACT that Tenet TOLD them not to put it in the October speech, but that Condi "FORGOT" about that when it came time for SOTU

can you please explain your derision here?

you don't think the media aren't behind the admin on this?

come ON?
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:46 PM
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6. Kind of like the wrong murders being pinned
...to a mass murderer.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:03 PM
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16. excellent analogy.......on at least two levels
just hope they get NAILED for something.....badly enough to get them the FFFFFFFFFFF outta here
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:51 PM
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9. it's fifteen minutes past the time it's due on here, and the news is
still on in Chicago

what's up?

long running ABC trash, or what?

anybody seeing it yet?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:55 PM
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11. Still news in CT
eom
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:57 PM
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12. hockey game ran late
so local news started late - at least that's what I was told when I called the ABC affiliate in Columbus, GA. I was in a pathetic state of panic when the news was still dragging out at 10:45 - kind of like a junkie in the early, nasty phase of withdrawal. I didn't realize how hooked I was on Nightline until tonight!
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:59 PM
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14. jesus.....fricking hockey......another WHITEWASH!!!!
they did it on PURPOSE, so there'd be a NEGATIVE leadin!

taking colander off head now
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blackmoonlillith Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:55 PM
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10. Of course they're going to try to pin
all of this on Tenet and the CIA, but do you really think the CIA is going to stand for it? Look for more and more leaks. It's obvious now that the administration and the CIA are at war with one another. The CIA will win.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 10:57 PM
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13. they sure are, so far
Isikof/Pincus said Tenet didn't even ATTEMPT to defend himself in front of that Senate inquiry into CIA failures

didn't even TRY!

WTF is up with THAT?

I hope I'm wrong, but would you be surprised?
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blackmoonlillith Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:02 PM
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15. The question is...
will the American public buy the whitewash. Most people are upset that Iraq is a cluster fuck, no wmd have been found, and the economy sucks. I also don't think that other CIA agents are going to put up with this shit. Tenet maybe... Look for more and more leaks.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:06 PM
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18. point is.....will this be a major move toward critical mass accumulating
how many more stories like this will it TAKE before the average news consumer WAKES THE FUCK UP?????????????????????

and humpty monkey takes the big fall?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:10 PM
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19. Of course the American people will buy the whitewash.
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 11:13 PM by scarletwoman
"It's all the CIA's fault." That'll satisfy just about everyone who isn't a hardcore political junkie.

Once again, all the sh*t that SHOULD land right in the laps of the bushies, is being deflected by the lapdog mainstream media to the scapegoat at hand.

How many Americans are aware of the OSP, and their role in OVERRIDING the CIA on the Iraq issue? I bet it's less than 5%.

The whitewash keeps it simple, and that's all most people want.

sw
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:13 PM
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21. but WAIT!!!!!! David Wise just mentioned a "mini-CIA" set up
at the Pentagon

just a brief mention....didn't say OSP, but it was there for a flickering moment

WHERE's Karen Kwiatkowski?

why isn't she EVER on?

can you imagine what that would be like


speaking of which.....wonder if she has anything to say about this yet
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:15 PM
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22. Yeah, I caught that!
Had to quick edit my post. ;-)

Waiting for the damn commercials to end...

Heeeeeere's Dick...

sw
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:17 PM
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24. did you notice his left pant cuff is folded over?
message that he's being held hostage?

can do this stuff cause I'm taping
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:25 PM
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28. Huh? Whose pant cuff?
Nothing but talking heads on Nightline, no pants to be seen.

sw
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:30 PM
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30. clarke's
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:04 PM
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17. Clarke is ON!!!! not buying the reason for resignation
so the truth will get at least some airing

good
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:13 PM
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20. All a cover for the admin's
neocon members and the shadow gov "intelligence agency", the Office of Special Plans.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:15 PM
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23. clarke on now
talking about major terror attack happening while CIA head is out
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:19 PM
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25. says Tenet wanted to quit a year ago, but couldn't due to
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 11:19 PM by buycitgo
circumstances

BUT.....that they'll be blaming as much as they can on him

RC: he tried to hard too protect the institution

Clarke out

coming up: two senate intelligence hoes
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:22 PM
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27. Why are they hoes for being on Senate Intelligence?
The House and Senate Intelligence Committees are some of the only oversight We The People have over the CIA.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:27 PM
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29. glad you axed
so far, Levin and Hagel are toeing the line.

disapppointed in Levin, who many thought would use the CIA as his conduit to really go after the junta

he's now blaming Tenet for tailoring intel to fit what he thought junta wanted to hear

what BULLSHIT....it begins there, but goes MUCH further!

not word one from Levin about OSP

HO

HO

HO

intel ho

lost much respect for Levin right there

do they have somebody from EVERYONE's family held hostage?

or what?

will someone comment on this segment, please?

is it me?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:40 PM
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34. VERY disappointed in Levin!
Letting the bushies skate, blame it all on Tenet. Absolutely disgusting!

But it gets WORSE! He's still pushing that god-awful recommendation that a whole new domestic super-intelligence agency be created. Both Tenet and FBI Mueller strongly opposed it -- well, now there's ONE down...

:grr:

sw
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:43 PM
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35. Levin, douchebag for Tom Sawyer.....or was it Huck Finn
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:19 PM
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26. Clarke: Watch out to see whether unnamed WH officials say Tenet was pushed
If they do, as he suspects they will, then we will know

Spend time with family means he was fired

Before Tenet we had one CIA Dir. per year

Protecting the Institution

Failed to criticize the Institution

Sometimes boss has to be critical in order to improve.

all very cryptic, to me...
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:34 PM
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31. SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUCKED!!!!!!!
what a waste of time that was........

unless, of course, you're the Bush Family Evil Empire

nice foundation laid

you could hide Jimmy Hoffa under that slab of hoyo
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:36 PM
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33. oops....forgot about this.........
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:35 PM
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32. Sally Quinn was pretty interesting
Endorses speculation about threat to his family, although she implies that the threat is from terrorists.

Says that he was tired of taking the fall for Bushes.

Says that career CIA take note, and that it is a mistake for admin to be disparaging Tenet now - they will regret it.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:44 PM
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36. VEEEERRRRY interesting!
Actually made me feel a little better. Pissing off the CIA? Bring em on!

sw
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:47 PM
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37. yeah, but......how long you been hearing that?
WHEN are they going to raise their fearsome heads?

everybody keeps saying, to the point of annoyance, that they're going to GET these foul swine someday

well.....WHEN?

they remind me of the Achordate Party

starting to remind me of the Kerry campaign

when are THEY going to start running some heinously effective negative ads, like the nazis are doing?
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