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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:11 AM
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Reagan Fucked Every American Applying For SS Disability Benefits
I had a professor who is a former administrative law judge with the social security administration.

She explained to us how, shortly after Reagan took office, the order came down to DENY BENEFITS TO EVER PERSON APPLYING FOR THEM, WHETHER THEY WERE ENTITLED BY LAW OR NOT.

This forced the applicant and his or her medical providers to go through the time consuming and costly appeals process several times before possibly getting benefits granted. In the meantime, the car got repossessed, the property was foreclosed and the disabled person was fucked.

It was a blatant attempt to screw the people in the name of government not engaging in the evil act of giving "hand outs" to any citizens. The practice has continued to present day and, yes, Clinton fucked up by not changing the practice himself.

So, Ronnie, if you are wondering why you have wasted away there in your bed, wallowing in your own pool of shit, piss and vomit, the answer may be that it is God's way of telling you that you are a miserable, sorry excuse for a human being. Enjoy.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:12 AM
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1. Someday...wherever he's buried....
I'm going to go visit his grave and piss on it.

Screw him.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:15 AM
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2. Yes he did
I wish him and his family peace.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:17 AM
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3. Dear TheWizardOfMudd

I Salute you.

For not drinking the Reagan Koolaid & telling it like it was.

You are my kind of people.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:20 AM
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4. thank you. n/t
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:21 AM
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5. When I practiced law
I represented a lot of those who's disability
had been pulled, like the mother who had a metal rod in her bac to keep her spine straight due to scoleosis. I'm happy t say that I got every last one reinstated.

I wish I could say it was due to the excellent legal assistance that they got. Actually, I think the admin. law judges were more than happy to reinstate them.

:dem:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:23 AM
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6. Reagan f***ed EVERYONE one way or another
all this newfound compassion for that bastard is more than a bit sickening.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:25 AM
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8. No kidding.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:27 AM
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9. I don't wish him a painful death
but I won't be shedding any tears for that f***er.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:28 AM
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10. Neither will I.
In fact, I'll go and piss on his grave someday.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 03:24 AM
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7. See this post.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 04:38 AM
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11. Reagan was an ass
And these wealthy criminal corporate welfare trash who think they are entitled to rob most people of the right to autonomy,happiness,food shelter.....and these moneybag bullies dare to think they are elites when they act like sociopaths ,so narcissistic and arrogant and vapid.Pathetic empty souls tha would be failurees if daddy didn't inherit the gold and give it to thier sorry ass.We the people know the'elites' are only"successful" because of a system of old boy networks and inheritance,the laws that favor their sick greedy inhuman kind,and the stupidity of the masses weaned into accepting abuse and slavery by the Horatio Alger myth...Fuck _all_the greedy wealthy pigs who use their wealth and buddies that make laws to suppress everyone else's hope and efforts,The rich fucks who use their corporate organizations to fatten themselves by stealing the creations inventions and such of employees to take away everything a culture can make or produce by our collective efforts together all for themselves,The super wealthy are inhuman black holes on welfare that hate the many hands that feed them,Rich creeps like that do not deserve to breathe the same air as I..
Eat the fucking Rich!
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:36 AM
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12. Yes this is true
I was working for the Dept. of Human Services in Tennessee--food stamps, AFDC and I saw a lot of people who had their benefits denied or cut off. It was heartbreaking. Several of my clients who did appeal the denials died before the final appeal. Benefits were awarded posthumously.

I worked with one young woman who had terrible epilepsy. Medication really did not help her. She was denied and appealed and denied again. She would try to work but no employer would keep her on a job. Any stress and she would go into seizure. Even if the employer wanted to keep her on he/she was afraid to because of liability issues.

I always wondered what happened to her. She did have her mom to help her out but they were struggling.

I have respect for Reagan because 1) he was actually elected by the people and 2) he was truly a great writer and speaker. But that's it.

His policies were very destructive to this country and its people.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:45 AM
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13. In rereading this post I would have to disagree with the
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 07:48 AM by scarletlib
second half of the report.

Again continuing my long career of social work, I worked for the Dept of Children and Families in Florida from 1990 to 2002 in the Adult Medicaid/Disability Dept. It was not my experience in working with my clients who were applying for SSA-D that benefits were being routinely denied the first time around. Just the opposite in fact.

On a personal note my brother had to apply for disability during those years (in Tennessee) and he was approved the first time out. From my perspective his case was 'iffy' if you didn't know him. He did have physical limitations from several on the job injuries but he had managed to get 4 yrs of college which could have allowed him to get an 'indoor/sit down' type of job. What we did for him was a supplemental disability application for mental illness. Again those can be iffy. However, the combination of the 2 worked for him. My sister in TN (I was in FL) worked with an Attorney and our brother got the benefits.

In addition, in recent months there have been articles stating that people have been getting SSA-D rather than the reformed welfare in order to support themselves in recent years. This came out some months ago, whether before the war or after I don't know. I took this to mean that a renewed attack on SSA-D would be started under bushco.


(Edit for spelling errors-even after using spell check the first time)
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:02 AM
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15. The Dem's in 84-86 got the GOP to agree to undo the Reagan DI order
Indeed a law was passed that ordered them to be fair (like you should need a law?). Now this was primarily aimed at SS and its disability program.

Medicaid/Disability is a different program and while it was shut down in effect in the 80's I am not really certain that the law that Tip O'Niel (D, Mass) had passed actually applied to those benefits. They may just have gotten on the be fair kick after Tip's law.

In any case I hope that explains to you why the Reagan spring 1981 rule did not affect Florida in the 90's.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:30 AM
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17. I worked in social services in this area in the 80 and 90's
To explain--I know exactly what was going on. I was in Tn in the 70/80's and Florida in the 90's.

People on SSA-D are frequently receiving benefits from local human services agencies--food stamps, and medicaid. If you are on disability you can qualify for any number of possible medicaid programs from 100% medicaid to medically needy. People applying for SSA-D usually are not working and that is why you see them in local human services offices--they may get welfare payments or food stamps or in TN--Nashville--at that time a local community payment to help them get by while waiting on the disability decision.

In florida I worked directly with people applying for SSA-D etc. Medicaid is totally different from SSA-D. Many people don't know that once you are approved for SSA-D you do not get medicare until 2 yrs after the approval. Since these people are disabled it stands to reason they need medical coverage. That is why you see them trying to get medicaid.

What I telling the original poster in my second reply was that the policy of automatically denying an applicant was not continuing under Clinton in the 90's.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:58 AM
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14. My mother was recovering from hip replacement and was denied..
disability under Reagan.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:03 AM
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16. It is so true
this did happen under Reagan. There is no telling how many people died because of the denial of benefits while he was in office.

I hope your Mom came through okay.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:47 AM
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18. I saw all these Ray-gun posts...went for my tin foil hat
so many predicted his passing would likely come in the months leading up to the election ... some thought it could be the October Surprise ...

... sure wish we had the Internet network back in 1980 ...

see PNACers in from Reagan's term list below ...

I never liked the man who sold his soul to California Fatcats who pay for his million dollar a month Bel-Air home today ... Nancy should decline any pension and other taxpaid benefits ... she doesn't need them ...

I don't want my former Presidents retiring to lives of corporate sponsorship (I'm avoiding a word sometimes associated with bush-cheney Media lapdogs ...

Ford has hardly come off the golf course since 1977 ... I'm sure his taxpayer paid "Office" in Michigan are unnecessary ... a Ford Library? It paid to be associated with the Warren Commission ... becomes President without being elected ... of course, it pales compared to the 2000 phase of the Coup d'Etat ...

Poppy doesn't needed any post-White House taxpayer support ... he's out enriching himself ...

Jefferson and Lincolm must be rolling over ...

It's my opinion that Neil Bush used the Texas post-Presidential office to establish, maintain and perform business (at our expense) ... Poppy might have used that tab to work on his business deals, Carlye Group ...


these good ol'boys only care about themselves ...

///RR and & have similar mean streaks ... it's that "abuse" discussed in "The Evil of Benality"/// on the DU Homepage ...

Reagan didn't even bother to go to church while lapping up the support from the Robertson-Falwell evil axis ... RR reeled them in with all his fundamentalist right-wing rhetoric, words which didn't materialize in fact ... but, they don't seem to care ... just the fact he used language they wanted to hear is enough for them ... again, the smoke and mirror game while the gouging America went on ... I really thought the RR-Poppy years were the Last Hurrah on the soak up the riches with abandon; and, the tide was turning ... and, would have made great strides with a Gore Presidency ... but, they stole that promise ...

and, this Robertson-Farwell support * despite, im my opinion, his family's attempt to off RR ... strange bedfellows ... strange people ... scary times ... shoot, I used to think that Poppy was a Nelson Rockefeller Republican ... fool me once ...

Reagan had some of the meanest SOBs propping him up: William Casey; Ollie North; Poindexter; Weinberger; Ed Meese (prolly busy recruiting right-wing activist judges; he used to head up the super secretive nearly all white Council for National Policy) ... etc.



PNACers in Government
Ronald Reagan Administration - aren't some of these people on the Defense Advisory Board, too???


Abrams, Elliot

Asst. Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs
Asst. Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs
Asst. Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs

Adelman, Kenneth

Deputy Representative to United Nations, rank of Ambassador
Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, Director

Allen, Richard V.

Deputy Assistant to the President for International Economic Affairs
National Security Adviser

Anderson, Martin

Assistant to President for Policy Development
Senior Policy Advisor, Reagan campaign

Bauer, Gary

White House Office of Policy Development
Under Secretary of Education
White House Asst. Director for Legal Policy
Deputy Under Secretary of Education for Planning, Budget, and Evaluation

Bennett, William

National Endowment for the Humanities, Chairman
Secretary of Education
Bergner, Jeffrey

Staff Director, Senate Foreign Relations Committee

Bolton, John

State Department, Justice, and USAID - various staff positions

Carlucci, Frank

Secretary of Defense
National Security Adviser

Cropsey, Seth

Deputy Under Secretary of Navy

Dobriansky, Paula

Deputy Asst. Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs
National Security Council Office of European and Soviet Affairs

Friedberg, Aaron

Consultant to National Security Council

Gaffney, Frank

Asst. Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy
Deputy Asst. Secretary of Defense for Nuclear Forces and Arms Control Policy (under Richard Perle)

Gerecht, Reuel Marc

Middle East Specialist, CIA
Political Officer, Department of State

Hill, Charles

Director of Israel and Arab-Israeli Affairs (1981)
Deputy Asst. Secretary for Middle East (1982)
Chief of Staff, State Department (1983)
Executive Aide to Secretary of State Charles Schultz (85-89)

Iklé, Fred C.

Under Secretary of Defense for Policy
Commission on Integrated Long-Term Strategy

Jackson, Bruce

Military Intelligence Officer, Department of Defense

Jacobs, Eli S.

General Advisory Committee, U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency

Joyce, Michael

Presidential Transition Team, 1980

Kagan, Robert

Policy Planning Office, Department of State
Deputy for Policy, State Department Bureau of Inter-American Affairs
Principal speechwriter for Secretary of State George Schultz

Kampelman, Max

Ambassador to Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe
Chief Negotiator, Nuclear and Space Arms with Soviet Union
Khalilzad, Zalmay

Policy Planning Council, Department of State (under Wolfowitz)
Special Adviser to the Under Secretary of State (support to Afghan freedom fighters)

Kirkpatrick, Jeanne J.
Ambassador to UN
President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (85-90)
Defense Policy Review Board (85-93)

Kristol, William

Department of Education under Bill Bennett

Lehman, John F.

Secretary of the Navy

Libby, I. Lewis

Director of Special Projects in State Dept. Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs
House Select Committee on U.S. National Security and Military/Industrial Concerns with China
"Cox Committee" Legal Adviser

Perle, Richard

Asst. Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy (81-87)

Pipes, Richard

National Security Council, Staff

Rodman, Peter

State Department Policy Planning Staff, Director
Adviser to Secretary of State George Schultz
Deputy Asst. to President for National Security Affairs (86-87)
Special Asst. to President for National Security Affairs (86-90)
National Security Council (87-90)

Rumsfeld, Donald

Presidential Envoy to Middle East (83-84)
President's General Advisory Committee on Arms Control
Presidential Envoy on Law of the Sea Treaty
Senior Advisor, Panel on Strategic Systems
U.S. Joint Advisory Commission on U.S./Japan Relations

Schmitt, Gary

Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, Executive Director (84-88)
Consultant for Department of Defense
Minority Staff Director, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence

Schneider, Jr., William

Under Secretary of State for Security Assistance (82-86)
President's General Advisory Committee on Arms Control and Disarmament, Chairman (87-93)

Shulsky, Abram

Staff, Senate Intelligence Committee
Staff of Asst. Secretary of Defense Richard Perle

Wolfowitz, Paul

U.S. Ambassador to Indonesia (86-89)
Asst. Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs (82-86)
State Department Policy Planning Staff (81-82)

Woolsey, James

Delegate-at-Large, U.S.-Soviet START and Nuclear and Space Arms Talks
Presidential Commission on Strategic Forces
Presidential Blue Ribbon Commission on Defense Management


Published by the Right Web Program at the Interhemispheric Resource Center (IRC). .

Recommended citation:
IRC Right Web, "PNACers in Ronald Reagan Administration," (Silver City, NM: Interhemispheric Resource Center, February 2004).

Web location:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/charts/rr-pnac.php


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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:25 AM
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19. Transforming the New Deal into the Raw Deal. (Stage 1)
We're now enjoying Stage 2.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:45 AM
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20. The saddest cases
were the mentally ill people who were cut off benefits who committed suicide before their legal aid lawyers could get them reinstated.
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