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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:40 AM Original message |
Why do we blame ONLY Reagan? |
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Political_Junkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree. |
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glarius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Perhaps I'm wrong but it seems to me the reason Reagan was elected |
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SquireJons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. This is not 1984 |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:46 AM Original message |
Agreed |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. understand history...or doomed to repeat it... |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. To an extent, you have a point |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Hitler never got more than 1/3 of the vote |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. There's no difference at all |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. there is a huge difference |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. What in the hell does that matter? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. By 1984 it was crystal clear what he was doing |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. It was not clear. The media made it as murky as they possibly could |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Reagan had already done most of the bad stuff |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Republicans were very sophisticated with the symoblism and the cultural |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
39. Well I wasn't voting in 1984 |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Neither was I |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Uhm, hello? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. So we give Reagan a free ride because Dems ran Carter and Mondale? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Do you honstly think anyone would have beaten Reagan in 1984? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Gary Hart in '84 might have been able to win states. I'm sure somebody |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. 59 to 41 isn't a landslide? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. That bastard. What were Dems thinking! So what MoV would allow us to crit- |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. If you want only in the title fine I wil edit |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Republicans were sophisticated fascists. Democrats were unsophisticated |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Again: what MoV in your mind would allow us to criticize Reagan? 48:52? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Jesus Christ |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. You have a dozen posts and I looked at the one I was responding to |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. on the subject of grammer |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Where's your sense of humor? |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. What about taking responsibility for letting it happen? |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
7. How about both being held Accountable? |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
32. And toss the media in there for failing to honestly address the |
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SquireJons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. Why NOT blame Reagan? |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
11. He ended inflation |
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MikeG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. His breaking of the labor unions ended inflation. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Only by exploding the deficit - borrow and spend. Started many of the |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. Volcker ended inflation |
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BillZBubb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Thank you! |
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woofless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
16. The past and continuing popularity of Rayguns |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:08 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. It's when they took over the media. They covered for his stupidity |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Raygun was a facade, polished to a glistening gold by the breathless media |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
21. What is a "known quantity"?? He deregulated most of America |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. yes and the people voted for him knowing he did it |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. The alternative in '80 was another big deregulator, and their alternative |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. I have pointedly kept out 1980 |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Running as an incumbent has advantages, so you can't discount the lameness |
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tinanator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #21 |
45. no he didnt |
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supercrash (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
22. Fuck that shit. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
26. hail St Alzenheimer, blame the American people - good plan! |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. again |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
43. so because a bunch of you morons voted for him |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
44. Who says we do? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
46. Did the voters tell him to sell arms to Iran? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. that is the only thing |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 11:00 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I think voters can bitch about Mondale being the alternative choice. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Mondale won the nomination fair and square |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-05-04 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
53. it wasn't the CEO, it was the rank-and-file (and, prolly Hill & Knowlton |
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